tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post1122323321884544949..comments2024-03-28T16:36:12.581-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: Berlin museum to sideline old mastersJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-37520918634921790812012-07-19T10:28:14.852-04:002012-07-19T10:28:14.852-04:00Older is not, perforce, better, and Berlin and Ger...Older is not, perforce, better, and Berlin and Germany as a whole have had some tremendous influence via Expressionism and other Modernist schools. I, personally, just added a Kathe Kollwitz to my own collection, and am mindful of the importance of the era and the place of Germany in Modern art. Also, I just hung a large show of my works and the gallery took down the previous exhibit which was Otto Dix. I named my exhibit Color & Expression, Now, as a segue.<br /><br />Sounds like display space is the greatest issue. They will find a compromise somehow, since there is pressure to so so. I also noticed that there are some american artists in the new collection.Casey Klahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08020906666248399435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-47046861942476622702012-07-18T11:04:09.855-04:002012-07-18T11:04:09.855-04:00I've been to this museum, as I'm very fond...I've been to this museum, as I'm very fond of Berlin, and it's really a very boring collection.<br /><br />Without commenting on the quality of the contemporary art that will be housed in the museum, I want to say that the Gemäldegalerie is organised on very old-fashioned lines. It has such an amazing amount of art that it is hard to truly see the best works without becoming numbed by other, less-good works. <br /><br />And this is in a city where there is no shortage of otherwise amazing art - even if a fifth of the 'masterpieces' they had were truly of that level, there are other Berlin museums with much better curated collections. The Islamic Museum, for instance, in the Pergamon Museum building, is astounding from start to finish. <br /><br />Presumably, the collection of the Gemäldegalerie will be available for touring once moved out of it's current location. This would mean that more art can be seen in more locations - rather than stuck as part of the display in the dusty old Gemäldegalerie. <br /><br />Who knows, perhaps a leading artist with a strong online following could curate an exhibition to show off some of the best paintings from the collection...Pete Hindlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10981159914739988898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-78308483869819697202012-07-17T18:34:26.244-04:002012-07-17T18:34:26.244-04:00I suspect we are going to see more and more decisi...I suspect we are going to see more and more decisions like this- as the baby boomers /sixties generation starts to get older and retire, they want to give one final "f-u" to the civilization and culture they despise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-1285981498623259242012-07-17T15:31:13.459-04:002012-07-17T15:31:13.459-04:00Thanks Jim!
Here's some additional informatio...Thanks Jim!<br /><br />Here's some additional information I could gather from a recent feature on the German radio ("Deutschlandfunk"):<br />according to their report the concrete plans are that half of the inventory of the Gemäldegalerie is supposed to be displayed in Bode Museum while the other half (!) plus one half (!!) of the collection of Bode Museum itself will be send to the depot.<br />"Surprised yet not impressed" by the rising criticism Parzinger states that they would go for that solution if it was one for 4-5 years (he also says they wouldn't do that if it would mean to merge the two collections for up to 10-20 years) .<br />(That's a bit of an eyewish considering the fact that there's no plans nor financiation yet for a new building, meaning that the period to give efficient new space will in every case take more time than four to five years...)<br />Georg Satzinger, Chairman of the Asosciation of German Art historians, states that the pressure, triggered by the endowment of Pietzsch, was used to hide half of the old master's collection. He furthermore says that he's thankfull that Berlin received the Pietzsch collection, yet the Gemädegalerie cannot be the place for it. ( On another note: the building itself, which cost about 25000 Deutsche Mark per squaremeter (!) 14 years ago, was especially built with an elaborate archtitectural technology designed to preserve the old paintings prefectly! As the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung puts it:"It would be as if you use a Rolls Royce as a delievery van for veggies" :-P )<br />The claim of the critics is to only start the move of the collection when an adequate new place is found or completely built.<br />Parzinger's plans are that the Kulturforum at Potsdamer Platz shall exclusively be reserved for 20th century art (I wonder what he wants to do then with the collections of the Kupferstichkabinett (museum of drawings and prints, which include drawings by Dürer, Rembrandt and last but not least the main body of Adolph Menzel's drawings), the Art library and the museum of craftwork then...all being sited at Potsdamer Platz.)Christian Schlierkamphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14486181495859389834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-1599624746101239462012-07-17T15:07:45.194-04:002012-07-17T15:07:45.194-04:00signed both petitions, Semphora.
Good luck!signed both petitions, Semphora.<br />Good luck!Johanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02417615368000033233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-32120525434569431872012-07-17T10:50:22.017-04:002012-07-17T10:50:22.017-04:00Curious. Heiner Pietzsch would seem wealthy enoug...Curious. Heiner Pietzsch would seem wealthy enough to at least get funding started on a discrete facility to display his collection, or donate the collection to a city willing to raise funds to build a museum, much in the fashion that the Denver, CO Clyfford Still museum was founded and built. This strategy would fit perfectly with Hermann Parzinger's claim that "Twentieth-century art currently has no proper space in Berlin and it's long overdue that we have something to rival Paris' Centre Pompidou, London's Tate Modern, or New York's Moma . . ." And besides, the article states that the Gemäldegalerie stands next door to the Neue Nationalgalerie, "Berlin's leading space dedicated to MODERN ART." (emphasis mine) Berlin only has to take a quick look at Vienna, Austria, where the Kunsthistorisches is but a short from the Albertina, whose collection includes Klimt, Schiele, and Kokoschka, and contemporary photography. A little longer walk, or subway ride, will take the museum goer to the Secession.Janet Oliverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15211855672690293121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-11610049522935479462012-07-17T10:35:48.353-04:002012-07-17T10:35:48.353-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Semphorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00624709639412867582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-90497081154788218252012-07-17T10:35:26.770-04:002012-07-17T10:35:26.770-04:00At this time, there are two petitions that try to ...At this time, there are two petitions that try to prevent this tragedy from happening.<br /><br />1. http://www.kunsthistoriker.org/offener_brief_gemaeldegalerie.html#c3189<br /><br />2. http://www.change.org/petitions/stiftung-preussischer-kulturbesitz-berlin-reconsider-the-plan-to-empty-the-gem%C3%A4ldegalerie-of-old-masters<br /><br />The first one is from the German Society of Arthistorians.<br /><br />The second one is lead by Jeffrey Hamburger at Harvard University.<br /><br />Both are open to the public, and as an arthistory student living in Berlin, I can honestly say, We'd be grateful for any singnature.Semphorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00624709639412867582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-47651677117858510782012-07-17T10:02:59.551-04:002012-07-17T10:02:59.551-04:00All the works, all the time? Were there funds for ...All the works, all the time? Were there funds for the maintenance and upkeep, and possibly building new space to house them? They should have turned it down.<br /><br />There are many tourists who go to Germany to tour the museums and see the old masters. I'm now sure about the fauves and surrealists...Linda Schweitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09733574737893944083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-70471212590302410992012-07-17T09:23:33.306-04:002012-07-17T09:23:33.306-04:00So they must display them always, or not get them ...So they must display them always, or not get them at all? Bit of a pickle. I'm from New Zealand, and it's so hard to get to see old masters works at all, that I hate the idea of a major collection being hidden away. <br /><br />I wonder if there is some minimum period after which the stipulation of permanent display lapses? At which point they could auction off a few to help fund a permanent facility for the collection, and then move the masters back into their old home? <br /><br />I can see the pickle, but shelving the old masters just seems wrong.Cavemattyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06998689510832223796noreply@blogger.com