tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post1829363580458313782..comments2024-03-18T07:23:32.809-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: Dorne’s DraperyJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-55928125454715927822010-10-21T07:58:34.108-04:002010-10-21T07:58:34.108-04:00Yes, drawing from life is always the best solution...Yes, drawing from life is always the best solution, but still, books are available for purchase, hence the question (is it worth the money and worth the time studying it's content) :)<br /><br />Thanks all for your advise.<br />Let's draw!Johanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02417615368000033233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-60408524290677139802010-10-21T06:56:35.081-04:002010-10-21T06:56:35.081-04:00Joe Jusko -- agreed.
But I wonder if the lack of ...Joe Jusko -- agreed. <br />But I wonder if the lack of wrinkles in today's art is related to the rise of knit fabrics? I hadn't put those two thoughts together until this blog post -- (thanks Jim). In the 40s and 50s you could look over at the guy next to you and he'd be wearing a wool suit -- today even the Jeans have spandex!Daroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02269629297022511462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-23155351185690703892010-10-21T06:41:41.706-04:002010-10-21T06:41:41.706-04:00Great post.
Johan -- Gleaning knowledge from Hoga...Great post.<br /><br />Johan -- Gleaning knowledge from Hogarth books is a skill unto itself. His drawings are schematics that explain his ideas -- but he is explaining everything all at once -- like the whole drawing is turned up to eleven. I think he has some sound organizational ideas on a complex subject that might help your thought process -- but as others have said, you can't beat drawing and observing from life.Daroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02269629297022511462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-33261266305468995052010-10-21T03:20:15.829-04:002010-10-21T03:20:15.829-04:00Just as an anatomy book isn't all it takes to ...Just as an anatomy book isn't all it takes to become good at figure drawing, I guess the best way to learn drapery is to draw from life. A lot.David Stillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06788583610600014354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-40062402123219706912010-10-21T02:31:10.692-04:002010-10-21T02:31:10.692-04:00Johan, I am no James Gurney but I would NOT recomm...Johan, I am no James Gurney but I would NOT recommand dynamic drapery by Hogarth .To me the most helpful lesson I had was (as often) the Vilppu video on drapery. you can also see his classification of the "seven basic folds" in the Famous Artist Course (chap 7). I found it quite useful to name the different type of folds before you draw them. But I guess the problem is that we all look for a magical method to draw quickly something that is almost as complicated as the human body (which, has only one type of skin, when there is so many different type of fabrics in clothes). I am not either a specialist of folds (if you check out my blog i'm affraid you'll see that) but one useful tip is : look for the seam and draw volumes for wrinkles, not lines (the side of the pencil is more efficient in that case). And whenever you can, try to emphasize the roundness of form underneath the clothes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08433820601481613587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-73188834368875225702010-10-21T01:47:33.424-04:002010-10-21T01:47:33.424-04:00Would you recommend the book "Dynamic Wrinkle...Would you recommend the book "Dynamic Wrinkles" by Burne Hogarth for those who seek more insight in the patterns of wrinkles in clothing?Johanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02417615368000033233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-71897485624905479712010-10-20T20:40:34.841-04:002010-10-20T20:40:34.841-04:00When I think back on how a couple of friends and I...When I think back on how a couple of friends and I used to goof on the Famous Artists' School ads (matchbooks and the like)...We didn't have a clue that it was really the source of some useful instruction. Case in point.Tom Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04770238579550226268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-38928511215293421252010-10-20T17:20:16.043-04:002010-10-20T17:20:16.043-04:00The extraordinarily talented John Watkiss has wond...The extraordinarily talented John Watkiss has wonderful little booklet on garment construction that I have found to be extremely helpful. I was able to purchase it directly from him.<br /><br />A link can be found to it <a href="http://johnwatkiss.blogspot.com/2006/10/mindsight-john-watkiss-school-of-art.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Jared Shearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14879406947140189516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-79901682029632550752010-10-20T16:40:49.871-04:002010-10-20T16:40:49.871-04:00Really nice examples.
You can never say enough abo...Really nice examples.<br />You can never say enough about folds- theyre so complex and even the untrained eye can see when theyre done right and when theyre done wrong. Remarkable.enbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03639409975414487664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-11926271605186338382010-10-20T16:06:53.529-04:002010-10-20T16:06:53.529-04:00Bridgeman's drapery book is pretty helpful. It...Bridgeman's drapery book is pretty helpful. Its really important to understand when doing a clothed figure because like the hair - it is never the same when the model breaks the pose - no matter how much tape you put down :) <br /><br />One of these days i have to try doing a study of a cloth dipped in plaster of paris, since i have recommended doing just that to so many artists :)My Pen Namehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10163003696435139513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-33339814556368421212010-10-20T15:40:06.007-04:002010-10-20T15:40:06.007-04:00I agree with Joe Jusko about drapery skills in tod...I agree with Joe Jusko about drapery skills in today's illustration. I try to do my part in keeping the academic tradition alive with the students I teach.<br /><br />Dorne was such a great draftsman. I browse his work again and again in my FA School books.Kevin Hedgpethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10854497303642372578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-23382166117850278572010-10-20T15:16:59.996-04:002010-10-20T15:16:59.996-04:00great!!!
I alweys have troubles drawing draperies...great!!!<br /><br />I alweys have troubles drawing draperies... they always look "standarized", and as I see, mr. Dorne has a huuuge experience in reality observation... envy... XD<br /><br />thanks for this culture. I love your blog!Maximohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16005955302623571543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-52355686719072696072010-10-20T13:57:41.426-04:002010-10-20T13:57:41.426-04:00Hmm... Yesterday, when I was trying to get asleep ...Hmm... Yesterday, when I was trying to get asleep in bed, I was (beside of counting sheep) thinking of how wrinkels work, and that I should start studying those things.<br /><br />And today, tadaaa...: a GurneyJourney blogpost about wrinkles :-).<br /><br />A reminder to J. Gurney: this night I'll think in bed about the different types of (cross)hatching and other methods of rendering an image using lines. ;-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09055371808132473950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-19276297405103951762010-10-20T13:36:59.508-04:002010-10-20T13:36:59.508-04:00Knowledge of draping is one of the things most sor...Knowledge of draping is one of the things most sorely lacking in much of today's art, particularly in comics. Look at any comic from the 40's or 50's and almost every artist could drape a suit or a dress. The guys who know it today know it well, but 75% just fake their way through it.Joe Juskohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00372481990907532158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-75394784740108190462010-10-20T13:34:38.851-04:002010-10-20T13:34:38.851-04:00Thanks for this post.
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