tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post51560868051844354..comments2024-03-28T16:36:12.581-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: AphantasiaJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-50043882677607419272022-04-23T21:07:36.974-04:002022-04-23T21:07:36.974-04:00Here's an interesting development: we could po...Here's an interesting development: we could possibly test for aphantasia. There's a study which found that people who easily imagine things exhibit pupillary response when they're visualizing an object just as they would if the object was in front of them.<br />People who suffer from aphantasia on the other hand do not show this response and their pupils remain unchanged when they're asked to visualize an object (and fail to do so).<br />Here's the full story:<br />https://neurosciencenews.com/pupillary-response-aphantasia-20423/Rafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11650777823865825810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-56143429763205127062020-06-24T04:48:54.765-04:002020-06-24T04:48:54.765-04:00Personally my visual memory works best in connecti...Personally my visual memory works best in connection with emotions, both good and bad. If something made me feel I have tendency to remember it much better than events which are neutral for me. It as amazing as it works actually both ways, if I look at certain picture it will conjure similar emotions as I felt at the time.Rafal Ziolkowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192101721561223991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-42081490327310168312020-06-19T22:35:37.393-04:002020-06-19T22:35:37.393-04:00For me, I believe everything is vibrational, inclu...For me, I believe everything is vibrational, including memory. Things repeated continue its vibration, and so some vivid memories are strong, some retold can be, and things repeatedly looked at can be called to mind. Very interesting subject for sure, because I see elderly recalling old memories, while not remembering breakfast. But the same can go for me at my middle age. I’ve never considered myself good at drawing without reference, but easily see in my mind the fortune cookie, my childhood home I can visualize, but I’m not sure I could draw it well.<br />Thank you for this!CerverGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17763787357097204649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-5509613107793886522020-06-19T15:56:31.968-04:002020-06-19T15:56:31.968-04:00I am an artist, have been for years. I'm also ...I am an artist, have been for years. I'm also a mathematician, writer and editor and used to be a computer programmer. I’ve always been able to visualise memories quite precisely. At 75, I can still see my childhood home and I’m sure I would be able paint a detailed picture of it. In fact, I’m surprised to find that everyone can’t conjure up this sort of image. That said, I’m terrible at remembering people's names and have almost no sense of direction. Aren’t our brains amazing organs?!Ellie Clemenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01923556586396130654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-84942530778494781582020-06-19T09:14:57.450-04:002020-06-19T09:14:57.450-04:00This never occurred to me as a condition. My ment...This never occurred to me as a condition. My mental recollection of images is incredibly sharp. <br /><br />It's another part I am lacking in, my ability to process conversations and sound is challenged, both verbal and written.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02822610630764602124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-54188790068101812302020-06-19T00:43:45.641-04:002020-06-19T00:43:45.641-04:00You can look at certain artist's work and reco...You can look at certain artist's work and recognize the strength of their visualization. Shishkin was flawless, just like Stephen Wiltshire. So was Da Vinci. Cezanne, Gauguin, Lautrec, and Van Gogh probably had Aphantasia, which they wrangled into a style that worked for them. Aphantasia was a blessing for Cezanne because mental pictures didn't distract him from what was coming together on the page.<br /><br />I was always bitter about having aphantasia, but I came to terms with it very recently when I realized how it was such an asset to the post-impressionists. I think it helps my artwork too (or could do so).<br /><br />For Science nerds, here's the deep analysis of Wiltshire's (and Shishkin's) neural circuitry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqU9lmFztOU&list=PL848F2368C90DDC3D&index=11<br />jeckert55https://www.blogger.com/profile/07404821590214077415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-36967686910342692522020-06-18T22:47:56.702-04:002020-06-18T22:47:56.702-04:00This subject a while back on Twitter with the scal...This subject a while back on Twitter with the scale of how you can envision an object like an apple.<br /><br />I was astonished to see how many artists I followed were at the far end of the spectrum, where they had little to no ability to see it in their minds eye.<br /><br />Here's a link if you want to see what I mean:<br />https://twitter.com/i/events/1226183524773875712?lang=enTyler Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07171434906811033069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-9495282449814626992020-06-18T20:31:16.444-04:002020-06-18T20:31:16.444-04:00I'm an artist with Aphantasia, I find I spend ...I'm an artist with Aphantasia, I find I spend more time on thumb-nailing images than friends and a bit more of a reliance on reference images when working from imagination. Typically though once i'm familiar with a subject I can draw it fairly reliably against a mental checklist of features rather than a mental image.Susiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13905035029949435186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-20728365075655801972020-06-18T17:58:53.471-04:002020-06-18T17:58:53.471-04:00I wonder if this is connected to the learning sttl...I wonder if this is connected to the learning sttle that involves movement to enhance learning (I think it's called kinesthetic learning)?<br />Drawing definitely enhances understanding of an object or scene that doesn't come (to me at least) with simple observation.CatBloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01469246332875693184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-56904438526137566002020-06-18T15:24:18.323-04:002020-06-18T15:24:18.323-04:00The artist Stephen Wiltshire comes to mind. He can...The artist Stephen Wiltshire comes to mind. He can recall everything from a helicopter ride over a city with uncanny precision as he draws from memory later on the ground, and gets it right. He suffers from a form of autism, I think, which some have attribute to his uncanny ability to recall things with such great detail and to draw with a micron pen with such deliberation.madillstudiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18094820218774581048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-1707079276245473762020-06-18T10:47:29.861-04:002020-06-18T10:47:29.861-04:00A fascinating subject, for sure. It seems the mor...A fascinating subject, for sure. It seems the more we look into the brain/mind the more mysterious it really is. For myself, when I'm playing with an idea, I fly around it in my mind's eye, seeing it from different angles to get the best composition. So, to a chronic hypochondriac like me, at least I don't have to wonder if I have an acute case of Aphantasia... Kevin Miznerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07365547679276432694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-30848203904695818372020-06-18T10:21:28.517-04:002020-06-18T10:21:28.517-04:00I wonder if the artists were less able to visualiz...I wonder if the artists were less able to visualize, or if they were just more adept at recognizing the weaknesses of their visualizations. A sort of visual-memory Dunning-Kreuger, where only years of attempting to draw from imagination have made it clear how lacking imagination can be.<br /><br />But Catmull's a brainy guy, so maybe he was able to control for that.Sam Bleckleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17663468538753856200noreply@blogger.com