tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post540117025964957644..comments2024-03-18T07:23:32.809-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: Edges in MoonlightJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-56343623861231334862009-05-10T13:39:00.000-04:002009-05-10T13:39:00.000-04:00Great comments, everyone. Jeff, what medium/size d...Great comments, everyone. Jeff, what medium/size do you use when you work in moonlight? Do you work in black and white, or some color?James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-6004881079862771452009-05-09T21:27:00.000-04:002009-05-09T21:27:00.000-04:00The several posts here have been a great help to m...The several posts here have been a great help to me and some of the members of an art event we created called the "artists safari". Nearly every full moon here in Perth (Australia) we've been going out to draw and paint. I would recommend it to others on this blog because it forces you to learn the basic drawing of masses of tone. It is surprisingly easy and de-stressing as well.<br /><br />jeffUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14651832951265859245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-38174023646415813242009-05-07T13:38:00.000-04:002009-05-07T13:38:00.000-04:00Oscar, I think Erik answered your question better ...Oscar, I think Erik answered your question better than I could. Pyle is right that texture is usually more obvious in the light side of a form that's lit from a sun or moonlit source. It's the dimness of the moonlight and the failure of our eyes to work well in that low light that accounts for the lack of detailed texture that we see at night.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-17333628181266139542009-05-07T12:15:00.000-04:002009-05-07T12:15:00.000-04:00Funny how what is 'right' is so often counter to w...Funny how what is 'right' is so often counter to what we 'want' in portraying certain subject matter...I know sometimes there is a different intent by the artist but comparing the two paintings really drives your point home...great post and continue to enjoy the educational insights...Brine Blankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14225308769654640156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-8328542392177085612009-05-07T10:45:00.000-04:002009-05-07T10:45:00.000-04:00This is probably why the old westerns that were sh...This is probably why the old westerns that were shot "Day for Night" weren't that effective. Though the filters darkened or, if in color, turned everything blue, (see previous posts)they didn't do anything to reduce the contrast. All the edges were in sharp focus.<br /><br />As your excellent post "Why moonlight is blue" shows, they can probably now run the raw daylight footage through a digital filter that would mimic night color shifts and differing levels of contrast or diffusion in the shadows and the light. Anybody know if this is being done? Examples? <br /><br />I remember seeing some old B-western where the characters were squinting and subconsciously shielding their eyes from the light -- during the middle of the night!Daroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02269629297022511462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-44188239971658932022009-05-07T09:14:00.000-04:002009-05-07T09:14:00.000-04:00Looking at the first picture, the word "sfumato" c...Looking at the first picture, the word "sfumato" comes to mind...If you look at it long enough, there's a slight sensation of smokiness between yourself and the subject. Very Cool!Mark Henghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05872172199243865094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-11612859153252042052009-05-07T05:17:00.000-04:002009-05-07T05:17:00.000-04:00Oscar:
The lack of detail in shadows in a 'normal'...Oscar:<br />The lack of detail in shadows in a 'normal' lit scene is due to the fact that typically shadows are lit by indirect light bouncing back from about everywhere (in the room), thus resulting in difuse light and soft highlights/shadows, while the directly lit areas receive most of their light from a single source, resulting in a highter light/shadow difference.<br /><br />It's only when things get very dark (like with moonlight) that our eyes add some more blur the whole scene. But that blur has nothing to do with the scene itself.Erik Bongershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02409523352634066030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-19733419978004431572009-05-07T01:55:00.000-04:002009-05-07T01:55:00.000-04:00There's a blurb in Andrew Loomis' "Creative Illust...There's a blurb in Andrew Loomis' "Creative Illustration" by Howard Pyle about how to deal with light and dark details, which says that in your lit areas there's details from minute shadows getting cast by hair, goose bumps, scales, etc., but in your core and cast shadows there's little detail, because these minute textural bumps have both their mini-shadows and mini-highlights all engulfed in dark.<br /><br />Would you say this is akin to that principle? As in, since the whole scene has a general darkness (other than in manmade sources of light) there's nothing for highlights to come up from?Oscar Baechlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17741877755555366706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-69889325512519976802009-05-06T22:44:00.000-04:002009-05-06T22:44:00.000-04:00I haven't tried a night scene, but when I do, I'll...I haven't tried a night scene, but when I do, I'll definitely keep this in mind. Great advice!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-22095554707709200732009-05-06T20:52:00.000-04:002009-05-06T20:52:00.000-04:00I've noticed how soft edges and details can get in...I've noticed how soft edges and details can get in low light. That first painting does a great job of capturing this effect.Moaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14149373854768008667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-91977533591667142562009-05-06T19:57:00.000-04:002009-05-06T19:57:00.000-04:00Frederic Remington was fascinated by the challenge...Frederic Remington was fascinated by the challenge of painting night-lit scenes. Several of those paintings were collected into one excellent book...Frederic Remington: The Color of Night.<br /><br />Thanks for another great post!Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596875722436085739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-13182563516366769622009-05-06T18:15:00.000-04:002009-05-06T18:15:00.000-04:00Thanks for the insight!Thanks for the insight!Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14277614527128689187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-43679513749618778302009-05-06T18:03:00.000-04:002009-05-06T18:03:00.000-04:00Oh wow, thanks for the advice! I happen to be work...Oh wow, thanks for the advice! I happen to be working on a painting with a lot of shadow and low-light, and I think fixing some of my sharp edges will definitely help!K. W. Broadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06655384005850170232noreply@blogger.com