tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post7441633278331871219..comments2024-03-28T16:36:12.581-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: Guptill’s Right and Wrong MethodsJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-77974689257884551412011-05-01T17:58:45.080-04:002011-05-01T17:58:45.080-04:00Interesting, his "correct" method was ta...Interesting, his "correct" method was taught when I was doing life drawing in one class, but another used the contour drawings as a warmup, as well as mixing them with other types<br /><br />Google seems to have removed the book, but it's still available at http://www.archive.org/details/sketchingrenderi00guptuoft (I think someone claimed it was still in copyright, as they say that's why it's restricted)David Morninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12773196477093204900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-6828378879437301582011-04-22T12:08:38.207-04:002011-04-22T12:08:38.207-04:00What is interesting to me is how similar Guptill&#...What is interesting to me is how similar Guptill's method is to the Brague Drawing course. Using straight lines and measuring angles and proportions and looking at the shapes and not trying to copy what your eye sees.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03014751431677271423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-37373369614319921152011-04-22T11:52:37.735-04:002011-04-22T11:52:37.735-04:00Elinor, yes, Guptill was a good friend of Watson, ...Elinor, yes, Guptill was a good friend of Watson, and they not only formed the publishing house, but also Art Instruction magazine, which later became American Artist. <br /><br />David and Antonio, I tend to agree with you. I don't think of any art methods as "right" or "wrong," so much as "useful" or "not useful," depending on what goals and purposes one is setting out to achieve.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-7568359628925715592011-04-22T11:47:14.785-04:002011-04-22T11:47:14.785-04:00I didn't know you had a blog! :D I shall certa...I didn't know you had a blog! :D I shall certainly be watching this space. ^___^<br /><br />And my second thought - 'Guptill' as in Watson-Guptill? I looked it up, and Arthur Guptill was indeed one of the founders. Wow!Molly Merulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07479898961421060658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-81594401835512537242011-04-22T01:10:37.012-04:002011-04-22T01:10:37.012-04:00I call this "blocking".
After your obje...I call this "blocking". <br />After your object is blocked in with correct proportions and angles, you can "build" the contours upon it.<br />What's cool is blind contour drawing that sensitizescultroto your eye to contours and coordinate that sensitivity with your drawing hand.David Lobenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17550343255310931339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-11773406210082044072011-04-21T21:36:21.231-04:002011-04-21T21:36:21.231-04:00Why choose? One should be required to learn both. ...Why choose? One should be required to learn both. <br /><br />Of course you are absolutely right in saying that one cannot count on contour drawing for accurate global proportions, so it is absurd to teach it as the only method, if you are at all interested in realism. But it also has uses that cannot be supplied by a measurement based top-down method. I often use it for poses too fleeting to be measured, or to "feel" the small curves of a form, or to get a first idea of a form before starting a top-down approach, or simply to make a globally innacurate but pleasing line drawing. So, if you only learn one method, by all means learn top-down proportional methods or triangulation or whatever equivalent. But really, why would you want to learn only one method?<br /><br />Also, I have no problem with saying "this is wrong" or "this is right", but I find that adding adding "...for the following purpose" sometimes is all it takes to clear up apparent polemics and contradictions.António Araújohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03059765930331992020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-23563469284427903862011-04-21T20:01:48.052-04:002011-04-21T20:01:48.052-04:00That is VERY interesting. I was taught the contou...That is VERY interesting. I was taught the contour method of drawing in school in the 60's. What we did was to draw without looking at the page, only at the model, and what appeared on the page was pretty mixed up, except that it did have the sort of essence of the thing or person we were drawing. <br />The problem came later when I was trying to draw realistically. It has been an ongoing problem actually--getting all the parts in the right relationship to each other. It is especially difficult when drawing from life a scene with a number of disparate parts: a table with chairs, for example, or a group of houses. I never learned how to get all the parts in exactly the same scale, and just a degree or two of difference can throw the whole thing off.Vickihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11195527278285894012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-33727557259298582942011-04-21T15:48:12.557-04:002011-04-21T15:48:12.557-04:00Thanks for sharing! The 'right' method is ...Thanks for sharing! The 'right' method is the way I'm being taught to draw in school, so it seems as if Guptill's influence runs long. In fact, contour is only whispered about in hallways, hell awaits any student caught doing it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-79732112440836343132011-04-21T15:08:12.029-04:002011-04-21T15:08:12.029-04:00Great share! Thank you. I'm going to go throug...Great share! Thank you. I'm going to go through this book asap.Adam M Botsfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933467515354404573noreply@blogger.com