tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post7767964287125028654..comments2024-03-18T07:23:32.809-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: Daguerre, PainterJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-31293234684629333192010-02-02T15:57:57.242-05:002010-02-02T15:57:57.242-05:00Can you recommend a biography on Daguerre and the ...Can you recommend a biography on Daguerre and the dioramas? Where did you have your information from?<br />Thanks<br />H.hklinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04841777644521555636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-53502374388863448622009-06-28T04:01:18.889-04:002009-06-28T04:01:18.889-04:00Daguerre, Niépce, Muybridge (and Stanford?) were s...Daguerre, Niépce, Muybridge (and Stanford?) were some pretty creative guys!<br />These innovative artists were exploring the illusions/delusions/perceptions of space, light and movement, (similer to the artists of the Renaissance): Observing, analyzing, building models and experimenting with paints, emulsions, and mediums (medeii?) in order to create images of power, mystery, and beauty. They were alchemists of light or scientific shamans of illusion. Their work not only laid the foundations for Photography and Film(Cinema), but also for Animation and now CG. (If we throw a wide enough net we could also include Edison and Disney… but that might be pushing it.)<br /><br />Say Victor, (if your still around) I didn’t get the connection to Juste Aurèle Meissonier (1695-1750) the French goldsmith, sculptor, painter, architect, and furniture designer; or Jean-Louis-Ernest Meissonier (1815-1891), the French painter and sculptor? But I did enjoy reading about them. Thanx for the Journey. -RQRobertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01751501281929627657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-7786304102981523702009-06-27T08:04:39.526-04:002009-06-27T08:04:39.526-04:00I was completely unaware that he was a painter. Wo...I was completely unaware that he was a painter. Wonderful. Thanks.Charley Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224073381783904301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-76766188947369225132009-06-27T07:27:21.024-04:002009-06-27T07:27:21.024-04:00S.Weasel, good question, and I should have clarifi...S.Weasel, good question, and I should have clarified. Some old dioramas have survived, amazingly, but I believe both of these samples are large standalone canvases, which Daguerre also painted. I saw the moonlight scene at the Met, and it was about 4x5 feet.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-77339371463145184392009-06-27T07:11:29.205-04:002009-06-27T07:11:29.205-04:00Waaaait a second! Obviously, they didn't have ...Waaaait a second! Obviously, they didn't have color reproduction in the early 19th C, so clearly they've kept these or we wouldn't know what they look like. Are these small preliminary studies, or is there a gigantic storage place for old backdrops somewhere?S. Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17081301454448509736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-58286998709254255822009-06-26T19:42:20.365-04:002009-06-26T19:42:20.365-04:00Sorry for being irreverent, but I thought these (p...Sorry for being irreverent, but I thought these (particularly the bottom one) were stills from a computer game. Very beautiful, in any case.S. Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17081301454448509736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-1427180479747401102009-06-26T14:52:57.628-04:002009-06-26T14:52:57.628-04:00This work is akin to matte painting. Very cool.
=...This work is akin to matte painting. Very cool.<br /><br />=s=Shane Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706984816021430077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-23076402398383962902009-06-26T14:37:21.869-04:002009-06-26T14:37:21.869-04:00Well, if Word Verification is helping with the hu...Well, if Word Verification is helping with the human/computer interface, I wonder if "they" are having fun researching the mind's tendency to supply the familiar when confronted with a near-miss. I recently had to concentrate to type "carnla" rather than the "carnal" that almost happened.<br /><br />I agree, Jim, a still image can have more power. When I was teaching, I would do a lot of videotaping throughout the year and then edit the hours of moving images down to a two hour "yearbook" for the kids and their families, with portions set to music. Doing some sections with still images -- like a slide show -- always seemed to carry more emotional weight. True, even those images were gone in a few moments, but they registered more deeply than the moving footage all the same. Extrapolating from that to the impact of something on the scale of Dauerre's paintings seems clear when compared to the fleeting edits in a movie. The possibility for contemplation is one reason why I preferred your Dinotopia books to the tv version.<br /><br />p.s. I had to type "hellin" to publish this comment...Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596875722436085739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-74907477144185056002009-06-26T13:25:08.646-04:002009-06-26T13:25:08.646-04:00Drew, I've heard that the data from verificati...Drew, I've heard that the data from verification word identifications ("captchas") are used to help understand the computer/human perceptual interface: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captcha<br />....but as you say, maybe it's SETIs talking to us.<br /><br />Yes, as Susan says, a well-painted diorama--including the AMNH backdrops by James Perry Wilson--is every bit as spellbinding as a movie effect. In some ways I'm personally more floored by the still image than the moving one because its effect on me has always been more indelible.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-89040771270885379702009-06-26T09:37:59.170-04:002009-06-26T09:37:59.170-04:00Seriously, this stuff still has a wow appeal. I&#...Seriously, this stuff still has a wow appeal. I'd love to see the diaphanorama.<br /><br />I'm always floored when I see these dramatically lit paintings. I usually end up struggling to push values, so whenever I see something like this, it's always an eye opener.<br /><br />On an unrelated note, my verification word for the day is "hypersti". Sometimes I wonder if this thing is trying to learn a language, instead of just spitting out random gibberish.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18262476114387821096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-25682113816303938122009-06-26T09:04:49.916-04:002009-06-26T09:04:49.916-04:00It's shame that his talents as a painter were ...It's shame that his talents as a painter were completely overshadowed by his innovations in photography.<br /><br />For more interesting links between photography and painting, read up on Meissonier, Muybridge and Stanford (of Stanford University fame).Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16334033221403464054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-89179469640117208872009-06-26T07:54:11.575-04:002009-06-26T07:54:11.575-04:00Are you kidding me? those paintings have a "g...Are you kidding me? those paintings have a "gee whiz" appeal even today! There's an astounding amount of depth - even in a small reproduction.Susan Adsetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00698268460716108960noreply@blogger.com