tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post8307148168558063785..comments2024-03-18T07:23:32.809-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: Painting into the SoupJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-55285086328891081452013-10-17T08:26:20.354-04:002013-10-17T08:26:20.354-04:00Mike, good question. The soup layer can influence ...Mike, good question. The soup layer can influence later layers whether it's wet or dry, depending on how you handle layers on top of it. If it's bone dry and you put down a quick touch, the bottom layer won't mix into it, but if the later layer is on the wet side, that white foggy layer can lighten the nearer layers, which is what you want. That's why I didn't put the soup across the whole image where I wanted the darks. This soup method is also great for achieving smoke.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-78153576637983359992013-10-17T08:18:53.956-04:002013-10-17T08:18:53.956-04:00Hi James, I too appreciate the gouache info lately...Hi James, I too appreciate the gouache info lately; it's a media I've enjoyed exploring lately. Quick question about "the soup": I had assumed that "soup" meant you intended the white-gouache-mixture remain somewhat wet as you quickly worked color into it, but later in the post you pointed out that gouache took longer to dry in the humidity and produced some unexpected results.<br /><br />Gouache usually dries so quickly, especially in thin layers, but the obvious influence tinting trees in the background has me befuddled. Could you clarify?<br /><br />Thanks, and lovely sketch, by the way!MikeChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09679424092675522485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-49826000950292962242013-10-08T09:00:42.817-04:002013-10-08T09:00:42.817-04:00I can see them now, James. Oddly, I could see them...I can see them now, James. Oddly, I could see them earlier too (not sure if that was Sunday or early Monday when I did see them initially).Tom Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04770238579550226268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-3690294920125292562013-10-08T08:56:17.243-04:002013-10-08T08:56:17.243-04:00Tom, not sure why that happened, but they didn'...Tom, not sure why that happened, but they didn't show up, but I just made JPEG files like always. I re-uploading the problematic files as PNG files (bigger, but I guess better for the web). Hopefully they should work now.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-242846624802005092013-10-08T08:46:16.996-04:002013-10-08T08:46:16.996-04:00I don't know if anyone else is having this iss...I don't know if anyone else is having this issue, but two of the images in this series - the second and the second from the last) aren't loading for me. That was true yesterday as well...<br /><br />Tom Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04770238579550226268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-57235579045975825312013-10-07T17:13:53.792-04:002013-10-07T17:13:53.792-04:00Some artists are familiar with painting into the s...Some artists are familiar with painting into the soup using oils but, I'm pleased to see one of the most useful gouache techniques illustrated here. Over the years I have found that adding a few drops of honey to the water aids the already excellent precision of gouache transitions. Rob Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07587811799010051018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-3139833851190710122013-10-06T20:51:56.551-04:002013-10-06T20:51:56.551-04:00Good question, Colleen. We've been lucky to lo...Good question, Colleen. We've been lucky to look at a lot of WTR originals, in many different exhibitions and several times behind the scenes with museum curators. He worked in a variety of media: pencil, oil, transparent watercolor, and watercolor mixed with opaque white. Typically his opaque watercolors are a mix of opaque and transparent. He very often painted on a light greenish gray toned board, where the sky has a wonderful milkiness. If you ever get a chance to see them in person, do! Otherwise there are several good books now on his paintings and drawings. James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-49613220816310837172013-10-06T19:02:17.486-04:002013-10-06T19:02:17.486-04:00thanks James....I love your blog tho I mostly neve...thanks James....I love your blog tho I mostly never comment , but you mention one of my idols WT Richards. I've read everything I can find on him but don't remember the soup thing, do you remember where you saw that?<br />Cccaubinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00872717905032744537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-25072092032564830082013-10-06T14:27:56.975-04:002013-10-06T14:27:56.975-04:00James, you are awesome with water media. I really ...James, you are awesome with water media. I really love some of the 19th century watercolors, they have a level of detail and control that is insane for the medium, as most of the water media work i see today looks pretty "watery". Is there any particular technique to achieving such control or is it just a good underdrawing and practice? Love your blog!<br /><br />Examples:<br /><br />http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Alexandre-Louis_Leloir_%281843-1884%29%2C_Moroccan_Girl%2C_Playing_a_Stringed_Instrument%2C_1875..jpg<br /><br />http://themixedmediaartlover.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/marsal1.jpg<br /><br />http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SsipZTfGN_Y/TZt8CKuIIyI/AAAAAAAAA-U/rFw1-W1i8oU/s1600/COMIENDO+UVAS.jpgAlexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11124166487893144622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-34101899401886451202013-10-06T12:46:24.290-04:002013-10-06T12:46:24.290-04:00I love some of the soft effects that this techniqu...I love some of the soft effects that this technique can achieve. I mentioned it to another artist recently and he was not familiar with the term... I suppose it may go by different names. I have been struggling with finding a medium in oils that works well for me with this technique. Do you use this technique in oils much? If so, what medium do you prefer for your soup?Ezra Sukohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03059662877537798525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-59940103387607548022013-10-06T12:06:18.388-04:002013-10-06T12:06:18.388-04:00Hey James, Love the posts on using gouche that you...Hey James, Love the posts on using gouche that you've done of late. I actually tried it out as a medium in college. and almost by accident. A local art and framing store was closing (retiring) and he was liquidating his inventory. I saw a stack of 4 0r 5 sets of winsor and newton paints and asked him a little about gouache, long story short I went back and bought the other 4 sets, and have enjoyed sketching with them ever since. (Sidenote) Popular comic Illustrator Alex Ross uses Gouache.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16565022224645774512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-52088193274453352832013-10-06T10:05:43.950-04:002013-10-06T10:05:43.950-04:00Thanks, Steve--Great find. I've linked that We...Thanks, Steve--Great find. I've linked that WetCanvas deal at the end of the post, and here too:<br /><br />http://www.wetpaintart.com/browse.cfm/schmincke-horadam-limited-edition-24-half-pan-tin-w-12-colors-and-12-empty-pans/4,14629.html#.UlFtlWTF3LwJames Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-22138022893719816382013-10-06T09:41:56.345-04:002013-10-06T09:41:56.345-04:00Thanks for explaining such an effective and useful...Thanks for explaining such an effective and useful technique. Especially liked the four work-in-progress images.<br /><br />For those interested, Wet Paint in St. Paul http://www.wetpaintart.com/ has an excellent price on a Schmincke watercolor set -- $62. It is slightly larger than the pocket set linked to Amazon at the bottom of this post. It comes with 12 half pans of paint and 12 empty half pans. Same amount of paint as the Amazon set for less than half the cost.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596875722436085739noreply@blogger.com