tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post8369279311997717346..comments2024-03-18T07:23:32.809-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: Unfinished TademasJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-56189353520920924622017-07-13T21:36:34.232-04:002017-07-13T21:36:34.232-04:00According to the press release for the new Tadema ...According to the press release for the new Tadema exhibit in London, he used charcoal, ivory black + terp and blue crayon for his sketching. I just saw the release on muddy colors and have been following a Tadema tangent for a few hrs...JOE COMEAUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13788489690160214582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-67438810579934137842011-08-07T14:28:52.801-04:002011-08-07T14:28:52.801-04:00Using white chalk for sketching changes or additio...Using white chalk for sketching changes or additions to a piece works well over darker areas, especially on large pieces. MPN is right about muddying up the paints with charcoal. By using colored chalks you can control this effect to your advantage. For a finer line, and a wide range of colors, I use Nupastels (Prismacolor) to outline. I like drawing with colored lines. -RQRobertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01751501281929627657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-53552657003503328272011-08-07T08:52:57.865-04:002011-08-07T08:52:57.865-04:00I suspect Tadema blocked in the top figure (in fir...I suspect Tadema blocked in the top figure (in first painting) intentionally using high chroma orange. That way, when he overpainted highly staurated underlayer with cooler and lighter translucent paint, he would achieve very beautiful flesh tone. Some believe that Bouguereau used similar technique in his work, as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-39106973888353119462011-08-06T15:56:24.722-04:002011-08-06T15:56:24.722-04:00Does anybody know of any painters who have used or...Does anybody know of any painters who have used or do use pentimenti intentionally to imbed hidden, ghostly images into their works? That's the first thing I thought to do with this effect if I were a skilled painter.Craig Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12956612316431207639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-28081725328264863982011-08-06T10:33:08.165-04:002011-08-06T10:33:08.165-04:00Ben, good points. I'm pleased to say that Solo...Ben, good points. I'm pleased to say that Solomon Solomon's book will be coming out again this fall from Dover, and I had the opportunity to write the introduction for it. More on that later.<br /><br />Appreciate all the other insightful comments.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-46891375775884981382011-08-05T22:42:09.498-04:002011-08-05T22:42:09.498-04:00I believe he knew fully of the undesirable effect ...I believe he knew fully of the undesirable effect of paint becoming translucent over time. He must have not cared. John Collier speaks of the effect as well as Solomon J. Solomon in the books Mr. Gurney has recommended(both awesome books and surprisingly easy to read). And if Collier knew of it I have to assume Tadema knew as Collier was a sort of student of his.<br /><br />I was recently reading "A manual of oil painting" again and when Collier describes how to lay in a still life I thought of that top painting. The flat "local color" block-in seems exactly as Collier describes it.Ben Valentinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15305533643222364590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-2967598548998386032011-08-05T21:40:51.589-04:002011-08-05T21:40:51.589-04:00So utterly brilliant at conveying the tactile qual...So utterly brilliant at conveying the tactile qualities of surfaces.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-21968272107468372422011-08-05T19:47:16.936-04:002011-08-05T19:47:16.936-04:00Your posts on unfinished and process works are som...Your posts on unfinished and process works are some of my favorites. I looked at the Waterhouse studies of nymphs over and over and I think I will do the same here. Thank you so much!Caitlin Floodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03199963070598408183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-68407478930649176282011-08-05T17:37:31.056-04:002011-08-05T17:37:31.056-04:00Thanks for sharing this. I am fond of the period ...Thanks for sharing this. I am fond of the period and the painter and learned something new.Zoe, ontheroadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15149680542541770465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-76273157234322797322011-08-05T17:07:44.898-04:002011-08-05T17:07:44.898-04:00Alma-Thadema was a very fine painter. I saw his &#...Alma-Thadema was a very fine painter. I saw his 'Tepidarium' recently at the 'Cult of Beauty' exhibition at the V & A museum. Amazing how small it is, the level of detail and finish, and the perfect textures make you think it's likely to be life-sized when you see reproductions, but it's more like the size of an A4 page.Gordon Napierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01374065314604533766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-73677317009588409672011-08-05T15:59:24.947-04:002011-08-05T15:59:24.947-04:00It seems to me (and I could be wrong) that Taldema...It seems to me (and I could be wrong) that Taldema is one artist in whose work pentimenti is not uncommon. I vaguely recall that a painting of his at the Clark in Williamstown, MA is one example. Seeing these correction/alteration methods I'm not surprised. It's too bad he couldn't have foreseen the pentimenti. Given his tight, polished style I feel sure he'd have avoided that if he'd known.Tom Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04770238579550226268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-21596837751822060632011-08-05T14:52:38.416-04:002011-08-05T14:52:38.416-04:00regarding chalk: Jon Demartin uses this to redraw ...regarding chalk: Jon Demartin uses this to redraw paintings, and I believe his teaching 'lineage' so to speak, come directly from Gerome...<br /><br />He said its better for corrections and intial drawings than charcoal because it doesn't dirty up the brush and paints like charcoal.My Pen Namehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10163003696435139513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-5826484294157126612011-08-05T14:28:53.407-04:002011-08-05T14:28:53.407-04:00Thanks for finding these for us :) It's pretty...Thanks for finding these for us :) It's pretty cool to see how such well known painters worked, or quit, and reworked things :)Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04303437854025245031noreply@blogger.com