tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post8504309522223188778..comments2024-03-18T07:23:32.809-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: Palette ArrangementsJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-56398948275116888822009-10-24T18:41:57.432-04:002009-10-24T18:41:57.432-04:00I'm such a color junkie at heart, but enjoy li...I'm such a color junkie at heart, but enjoy limited palettes. Therefore, I use a number of different palettes depending on medium, subject, season, space (small pochade box or larger mixing area). Here are a few of my favoritesl for oils.<br /><br />Limited palette:<br />Cadmium Yellow Lemon<br />Pyrrole Red (or cad red sometimes)<br />Ultramarine Blue<br />One of these: Raw Sienna or Transparent Yellow Oxide or Transparent Red Oxide<br />Titanium White<br /><br />Limited palette #2 (a recent favorite):<br />Cadmium Yellow Light or Medium (depending on manufacturer)<br />Permanent Carmine<br />Prussian Blue<br />Titanium White<br /><br />Portrait/figure palette:<br />Naples Yellow<br />Cadmium Yellow Medium<br />Cadmium Red<br />Cerulean Blue<br />Ultramarine Blue<br />Oxide of Chromium<br />Transparent Red Oxide<br />Titanium White<br /><br />I also like the Kenn Backhaus palette. It's a bit unusual, but it works!<br />Cadmium Yellow Lemon<br />Permanent Rose<br />Permanent Alizarin<br />Raw Sienna<br />Ultramarine Blue<br />Ivory Black<br />Titanium White<br /><br />My favorite expanded palette:<br />Cad Yellow Lemon<br />Cad Yellow Medium<br />Cad Orange<br />Cad Red Medium<br />Permanent Alizarin<br />Ultramarine Blue<br />Prussian Blue<br />Viridian<br />Transparent Yellow Oxide<br />Transparent Red Oxide<br /><br />I always arrange these along the top of the palette with the white on the left, then the other colors in order from left to right.<br /><br />My palettes are all different---from 1/4" cut glass tabletop palettes to paper palettes to pochade box palettes to traditional handheld palettes. I like them all for different reasons.Jamie Williams Grossmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10769196454699941599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-63217448434407724542009-06-19T11:12:32.481-04:002009-06-19T11:12:32.481-04:00Nick, thanks for mentioning the Stobart limited pa...Nick, thanks for mentioning the Stobart limited palette, and I appreciate your sharing the good logic of how you lay it out. <br /><br />And thanks everyone else for all the really useful information.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-49479335537603017102009-06-18T00:51:34.146-04:002009-06-18T00:51:34.146-04:00*slaps self in forehead*
That'll teach me to p...*slaps self in forehead*<br />That'll teach me to post before reading through. Yeah, I use the Stobart for big stuff, too.Nick Jainschigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05605536593668106140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-25075981661506677562009-06-18T00:49:30.580-04:002009-06-18T00:49:30.580-04:00Hi, Jim--I used to use a different palette with ea...Hi, Jim--I used to use a different palette with each painting--depending on the subject and how the color sketch had worked. Of course, I was working in acrylic, and it really helps to have a lot of pre-mixed tones. I'd usually find one tone to predominate (something like "Light Lilac"--I was a fan of those Tole Painting acrylics)and use a little of it in almost every color to remove some of the harshness and over-crispness that acrylics can get.<br /><br />Nowadays, I'm using either of two limited palettes--the John Stobart 5-color one, or the split-primary.<br />The Stobart one is:<br />Ult. blue<br />Burnt Sienna<br />Perm green<br />Pyrrol red<br />Cad. yellow medium<br />Titanium white<br />It's surprisingly effective and capable. I very rarely have to haul out other colors, usually a cobalt blue for a sky effect, or one of the transparent colors for a glaze. Mostly I work opaquely, so that's pretty rare.<br />The order is as I've written, since the blue and Sienna are responsible for almost all the darks and should be next to each other. The next comes the green and then the red--red goes mainly toward yellow since I find the perm. green and yellow combination too...vivid for much use, although it's good to know it's there.The yellow is next to the white and I'll often mix a little in to the titanium to take some of the coldness out.Nick Jainschigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05605536593668106140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-71354657303894885392008-06-26T13:24:00.000-04:002008-06-26T13:24:00.000-04:00This is a really fascinating post! I never really ...This is a really fascinating post! I never really thought about how I arranged my palette...<BR/><BR/>For acrylic, I work on an 8x10" sheet of glass with masking tape on the edges, and since I generally place it on a table instead of holding it, the order of the colors is less important (since I turn the glass so that whatever I need is closest). It's been awhile since I painted with acrylic, but generally I group warm colors, cool colors, and then browns/black/white. <BR/><BR/>My watercolor palette I have with me, so I can be a little more specific. It's a very cheap plastic rectangle which I really should replace with something better, but it fits in the box I use to keep all my supplies so I haven't yet. <BR/><BR/>From left to right:<BR/>Burnt Sienna<BR/>Burnt Umber<BR/>Gamboge Hue<BR/>Yellow Ochre<BR/>Alizarin Crimson<BR/>Cadmium Red Light<BR/>Cadmium Yellow Pale<BR/>Thalo Yellow Green<BR/>Hooker's Green Deep<BR/>Thio Violet<BR/>Payne's Grey<BR/>Prussian Blue<BR/>Ultramarine Blue<BR/>Cerulean Blue<BR/><BR/>Again, the palette is pretty small so I generally turn it around a lot so whatever I need is facing me. The colors I use most, though, are probably the Yellow Ochre, Burnt Sienna, Prussian Blue and Gamboge Hue (or any other warm yellow). Eventually I will probably get black and white in there, but right now I'm still a beginning watercolor student so those colors are <I>forbidden</I> by my teacher. :3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-57047105775114138052008-06-24T18:24:00.000-04:002008-06-24T18:24:00.000-04:00If I remember correction, Whistler never looked at...If I remember correction, Whistler never looked at his students painting, only their palette. He felt he could learn more about a person from his palette than anything else. Interesting and I think there's something to it.<BR/><BR/>RichardRichardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17379829398318583919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-29078722275399022762008-06-24T12:49:00.000-04:002008-06-24T12:49:00.000-04:00Hello! I thought I would throw in my own palette t...Hello! I thought I would throw in my own palette thoughts. I usually paint in acrylic and gouache. When I paint in acrylic, a butcher try is employed with a disposable palette and wet paper towels. I put white in a corner and then lay out my lighter colors closest to the white then darker away from the white. I like to have my cool colors on the long side and warm on the short. Gouache, I use a water color palette, there was order, but as I get more colors I just put them were I have room. Thanks to James and everyone else with so many fun ideas!Tyler Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07544509977681010110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-73232314620240492772008-06-23T22:21:00.000-04:002008-06-23T22:21:00.000-04:00Wonderful post and subject, James.I recently start...Wonderful post and subject, James.<BR/><BR/>I recently started painting in March, something I hadn't done since a teenager (over 30 years), and have been trying to figure out my palette.<BR/><BR/>Currently I'm doing mostly plein air, and being located in south central Kentucky means there is a LOT of green right now. For that reason I'm using three yellows on my palette along with two blues. It goes something like this from upper left corner clockwise;<BR/><BR/>Titanium White<BR/>Aliz. Crimson<BR/>Cadmium Red<BR/>Raw Umber (mostly for laying in quick darks and first sketch)<BR/>Lemon Yellow<BR/>Cadmium Yellow<BR/>Indian Yellow<BR/>Cobalt Blue<BR/>French Ultramarine BlueBilly Guffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15630378626972553684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-72296849628262675432008-06-23T19:27:00.000-04:002008-06-23T19:27:00.000-04:00My palette is a 12" x 16" sheet of glass under whi...My palette is a 12" x 16" sheet of glass under which is placed a neutral gray sheet of paper. It rests on a tray attached to my easel so that it is between me and the easel. <BR/><BR/>I have arranged dark, transparents on the left edge, mid-value opaques along the longer edge away from me, lights along the right edge and dark neutrals along the edge closest to me. <BR/><BR/>My colors are: darks--quinacridone gold, transparent burnt sienna, alizarin crimson, dioxazine purple, F.U. blue, thalo blue, thalo green, Daniel Smith sap green; mid-value opaques--thalo blue+white mix, FU blue+white mix, dioxazine purple+white mix, alizarin crimson+white mix, Gamblin cadmium red light, Gamblin cadmium orange, Utrecht yellow ochre; lights--Utrecht hansa yellow light, Winsor Newton titanium white, permalba white; dark neutrals--Utrecht burnt umber, Rembrandt raw umber, ivory black.<BR/><BR/>This is my own system which has been evolving for 40+ years.Dianne Mizehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06290943648650327077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-24497809724125339402008-06-23T01:55:00.000-04:002008-06-23T01:55:00.000-04:00Great topic, James. Thanks.Here's another example ...Great topic, James. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>Here's another example that I saw recently, Cecilia Beaux's portrait of <A HREF="http://bp3.blogger.com/_XoKrMI7AumU/RmfvGy2bxEI/AAAAAAAAATs/96FBzQovgaw/s1600-h/tp93.jpg" REL="nofollow">Alexander Harrison</A> with his palette; and another, William Merritt Chase's <A HREF="http://bp2.blogger.com/_XoKrMI7AumU/Rmfxci2bxGI/AAAAAAAAAT8/Hkkz_F-qr8E/s1600-h/tp95.jpg" REL="nofollow">The Artist in his Studio</A>, both pulled from <A HREF="http://ciarteblog.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html" REL="nofollow">A Ciencia e a Arte</A>.<BR/><BR/>Here's my two cents for the palette poll:<BR/><BR/>Studio (split-primary):<BR/>Clockwise from top left of the palette (a big Masterson Stay-Wet):<BR/><BR/>Viridian<BR/>Cerulean Blue<BR/>Ultramarine Blue<BR/>Alizarin Crimson<BR/>Cad Red Medium<BR/>Cad Yellow Light<BR/>Lemon Yellow<BR/>Titanium White<BR/>Burnt Sienna<BR/><BR/>Field ("artists' primaries"):<BR/>Left to right across top of palette:<BR/><BR/>Viridian<BR/>Ultramarine Blue<BR/>Quinacridone Rose Violet (PR 122, newly substituted for Alizarin)<BR/>Cad Yellow Light<BR/>Titanium White<BR/>Burnt Sienna<BR/><BR/>Burnt Sienna is a convenience color that I use for sketching, imprimatura or underpainting. (I know it's a bit warm for that, but I like it.)Charley Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224073381783904301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-38876258923091087702008-06-22T22:04:00.000-04:002008-06-22T22:04:00.000-04:00Hi James, I have two main palettes that I use with...Hi James, I have two main palettes that I use with a few extras thrown in when I need them.<BR/>Here is the bare bones one from top to bottom along the left side of my palette.<BR/><BR/>French Ultramarine Blue<BR/>Cadmium Red<BR/>Cadmium Yellow Light<BR/>Titanium White<BR/><BR/>If I use the split primary it goes like this.<BR/>From top to bottom again.<BR/><BR/>French Ultramarine Blue<BR/>Alizarine Crimson<BR/>Cadmium Red<BR/>Cadmium Yellow Light<BR/>Lemon Yellow or Cad Lemon<BR/>Titanium White <BR/>and up in the far right corner away from everything else a dab of Phthalo Blue. It gets into everything, so I try and keep it separate.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes I stick some Indian Yellow on there for mixing greens. I use that a lot more when painting in the U.S. and almost never here in Mexico.<BR/><BR/>There are always exceptions, but these are the standards for me.<BR/><BR/>I don't often use a hand held palette. I find I am cheaper with my paint if I can't close a lid on it and take it home. I use open box m's and another folding palette that I made. They both can save unused paint. Besides, my left hand is always full of brushes and a rag.Frank Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02011564146411771531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-78473797006835458252008-06-22T16:43:00.000-04:002008-06-22T16:43:00.000-04:00Ernst van de Wetering's book "Rembrandt: The Paint...Ernst van de Wetering's book "Rembrandt: The Painter at Work" has a very informative chapter on the development and use of the palette before, during and after Rembrandt's days. Yet another reason to recommend that book.<BR/><BR/>It somehow relates to the earlier post James made on this blog about the method of finishing one part of a painting at a time. Common practice in the 16th and 17th centuries seems to have been to do just that, preparing a palette for a specific part rather than the painting as a whole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-81834467573364482542008-06-22T15:36:00.000-04:002008-06-22T15:36:00.000-04:00I forgot I also use Burnt Sienna which I place in ...I forgot I also use Burnt Sienna which I place in the reds.<BR/><BR/>I like to move from light to dark,<BR/>I'm left handed so my palette is going from left to right, light to dark and yellow to red to blue to green, a spectrum palette.<BR/>For landscape I don't use any umbras as they pull to much to yellow.<BR/>However they do make some nice greens.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03014751431677271423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-29238300711322926402008-06-22T14:14:00.000-04:002008-06-22T14:14:00.000-04:00Well I tried to put a picture of my setup in, but ...Well I tried to put a picture of my setup in, but my technical expertise in this is just lacking...sorry <BR/><BR/>TRacyTracy Flynn Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12593665068576018101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-24497345783138649382008-06-22T14:13:00.000-04:002008-06-22T14:13:00.000-04:00I tried using the hand held palettes when I first ...I tried using the hand held palettes when I first got back into painting after a 20 year lay-off and found taht I kept putting them down for one reason or another and still worked off them,so I eventually went to a sheet of glass ( 18" x 16" )on top of a small table whch holds my brushes and turps and what nots as I paint. <BR/><BR/>The arrangement of my pigments remained the same tho.<BR/><BR/>Starting out closest to me:<BR/><BR/>Cadmium Yellow<BR/>Yellow Ochre <BR/>Transparent Earth Red<BR/>Burnt Sienna<BR/>Burnt Umber <BR/>Cadmium Red Medium<BR/>Alizarin Crimson<BR/>Titanium White ( the corner away from me )<BR/><BR/>Sap Green<BR/>Ultramarine Blue<BR/>Cerulean Blue<BR/>Paynes Grey<BR/>Ivory Black<BR/>Phthalo Green ( almost never used)<BR/><BR/>Under the glass I have a sheet of white paper with the names of the colour on it in their respective places ( I tend to forget which goes where ). I don't usually squeeze out all the colours all the time, but usually just what I am working with for each particular painting, and some of the colours rarely ever see the glass.<BR/><BR/>I have no idea when or why I picked these colours, but those are what I use.<BR/><BR/>Palette<BR/>[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/Artinthadark/palette.jpg[/IMG]Tracy Flynn Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12593665068576018101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-18779217608154850172008-06-22T13:18:00.000-04:002008-06-22T13:18:00.000-04:00Good observation, I am colorblind AND left handed ...Good observation, I am colorblind AND left handed :)<BR/>Curves are hardly used though.<BR/>Cryla is the top acrylic series of Daler-Rowney. <BR/>Indeed tempera (hence the eggs I took out of the fridge).<BR/>Remember your poll for mediums?Resulted in 2 hits for 'tempera', of which I represented 50% of the population.<BR/>And 'the bend' is not the subject for the painting - I'm going to fit in a young bull and some cows, hence the title : "The Young Pretender". ('the bend' might therefor be a little distracting...ow, we'll see...)<BR/><BR/>Thanks for pointing out moyse's site. Indeed nice twisted portraits and 'you-tubes'.Erik Bongershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02409523352634066030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-37094693024524147322008-06-22T13:09:00.000-04:002008-06-22T13:09:00.000-04:00I have found recently that choosing a limited numb...I have found recently that choosing a limited number of colors, or using a simple color idea like opposition between two colors works a lot better then having any set notion of what colors I should have on my palette. It seems if I can discover a simple underlying color idea to the subject, like and arrangement of oranges and blues or reds and greens, much of the unnamable color can be created from the complimentary pair. In other words you can worry more about matching value and intensity of what you see and you almost automatically get nice color and your palette becomes very simple.<BR/><BR/> So I find myself choosing from colors like ultramarine blue, green blue, cadmium red, permanent rose, and cad yellow and lemon yellow along with cremitz or flake white. Not using them all at once but maybe choosing two or three. It is almost like you already have some sort of harmony then. <BR/><BR/>I do get confused by the earth colors older artists use for reason. I have tried using ivory black and yellow orche and brunt sienna with some success but the other colors seemed to produce more satisfying results especially in landscape painting.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16415372599817170313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-2874182071565686382008-06-22T12:50:00.000-04:002008-06-22T12:50:00.000-04:00Thanks, Erik for the glimpse in your studio. It's ...Thanks, Erik for the glimpse in your studio. It's nice to see drafting curves and ink bottles. Am I right in guessing that you are left-handed? What are those "Acryla" paints--acryla-gouache? Gorgeous landscape, too, makes me wonder what's around the bend of the road. That looks like egg tempera and dry pigments.<BR/><BR/>John and Jeff--I really appreciate your tips on color mixing, and those links to Whistler's palette.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-78679877447297372262008-06-22T11:59:00.000-04:002008-06-22T11:59:00.000-04:00I actually forgot quite a different palette I use....I actually forgot quite a different palette I use.<BR/><BR/>This is my very first <A HREF="http://www.erikbongers.net/TheYoungPretender.jpg" REL="nofollow"> real painting</A> that I'm working on (from left to right as you can see) and this is the <A HREF="http://www.erikbongers.net/Eggs.jpg" REL="nofollow">limited palette</A> I'm using for it.Erik Bongershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02409523352634066030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-32985730047170300122008-06-22T11:40:00.000-04:002008-06-22T11:40:00.000-04:00I know a thousand words say more than a picture, b...I know a thousand words say more than a picture, but I'm lazy today.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.erikbongers.net/P49.jpg" REL="nofollow">This</A> was painted with <A HREF="http://www.erikbongers.net/Palette.jpg" REL="nofollow">this dried up palette</A> using <A HREF="http://www.erikbongers.net/Paints.jpg" REL="nofollow">these tubes</A>.Erik Bongershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02409523352634066030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-67038796082713258472008-06-22T11:33:00.000-04:002008-06-22T11:33:00.000-04:00Great post, I am int collecting palettes as Jason ...Great post, I am int collecting palettes as Jason is of different painters as well. <BR/><BR/>Whistler is one of my favorite painters and printmakers, so I have included to links to pictures of his palettes, notice though how one, the one in Glasgow at the Hunterian Museum, which has a huge amount of his studio contents as well as paintings. <BR/><BR/>Notice how in this palette he has white in the center, on the left yellow ochre, raw sienna, burnt sienna, raw umber, cobalt and mineral blue and to the right vermilion, venetian red, indian red and black.<BR/><BR/>For those interested:<BR/><BR/>http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/trlout_gfx_en/TRA36354.html<BR/><BR/>http://www.mr-whistlers-art.info/art/studio/tools_materials/palette.shtml<BR/><BR/>http://www.aaa.si.edu/collections/collections.cfm/fuseaction/Items.ViewImageDetails/ItemID/6733<BR/><BR/><BR/>I use for the most part a palette of 9 colors plus Black and White.<BR/><BR/>Flake or Titanium White<BR/>Cad Yellow Lt.<BR/>Yellow Ochre<BR/>Cad Orange<BR/>Vermilion or Cad Red Lt.<BR/>Terra Rosa<BR/>Permanent Crimson (Alizarin)<BR/>Cobalt Blue<BR/>Ultramarine Blue<BR/>Viridian<BR/>Ivory or Mars Black<BR/><BR/>Sometimes I'll add Cerulean Blue<BR/>and Persian Red and Cad Lemon Yellow which brings it to 12.<BR/>I like thinking in threes or triads as I can add or subtract from this down to three colors if need be as that is the root of the palette.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I also have a string of 9 Neutral grays. (Munsell)<BR/><BR/>I have been using Munsell to pre-mix palettes as well.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03014751431677271423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-4390105085141036552008-06-22T11:24:00.000-04:002008-06-22T11:24:00.000-04:00I'm a beginner; my palette is a piece of glass tap...I'm a beginner; my palette is a piece of glass taped to foam-core, and I group colors that I'll be combining together and mix my range of colors from those nearby. If I'm finished with a color (or think I am), I'll mix it into a different color. EX: If I'm trying to make a skin tone, I'll put white, orange, and yellow next to each other, with a darkish blue, a brown, and dark rose red nearby.<BR/><BR/>I guess my palette is a bit of a mess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-39967974055722715072008-06-22T09:52:00.000-04:002008-06-22T09:52:00.000-04:00A fascinating post, as usual. I'm always intereste...A fascinating post, as usual. I'm always interested in how other artists set up their palettes and which pigments they prefer and how they arrive at the colors they do. All grist for my own mill.<BR/><BR/>I like a limited palette both because it suits my color sense well and because it lends itself to control and color harmony in the painting. For example, I mix Winsor Violet (dioxazene) with Cadmium Yellow Light and touches of Cadmium Red for earth colors. They resemble Raw Sienna and Yellow Ochre, but they have a richness lacking in the latter, and hold up better when mixed with the cool colors (Ultramarine Blue, Indanthrine Blue and sometimes Prussian Blue)and color harmony will be a given, rather than something that I'm working at, as all the colors will have some pigments in common. <BR/><BR/>I mix all my greens using either Prussian Blue or Indanthrine Blue and Cadmium yellows. I use Flake White and never use black for shades of a color. I find I can get a perfectly good black using Burnt Umber and Ultramarine Blue, sometimes further darkening it with a little Dioxazene Violet. You can get a really intense black using Alizarin and Prussian Blue. <BR/><BR/>For a palette I use a disposable palette on top of a taboret.John P. Baumlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17845060167329464424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-16686405471963174852008-06-22T07:32:00.000-04:002008-06-22T07:32:00.000-04:00Thanks, Moyse. For those who don't know, Paul Moys...Thanks, Moyse. For those who don't know, Paul Moyse is a brilliant caricaturist from the U.K. Check out his blog "The Art of Moyse" for amazing demos and insights.<BR/><BR/>Jason, I was thinking of you when I worked on this post, because you're the expert on palettes. I like the way you set yours up, and the logic of putting the paints more or less in spectral order makes the most sense to me, too. <BR/><BR/>I find when I'm painting outdoors I grab all the tubes I think I'll need and lay them out in order right on the palette, and then squeeze them out. That way I can edit out colors or switch their order before I take off the caps.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-731056659273554062008-06-22T07:01:00.000-04:002008-06-22T07:01:00.000-04:00Hi James, I cant resist this post, Ive now collect...Hi James,<BR/><BR/> I cant resist this post, Ive now collected 78 artist palettes, and my collection continues to grow. <BR/>Here is how my palette is set up:<BR/> <BR/>Flake White<BR/>Ivory Black<BR/>Raw Sienna<BR/>Yellow Ochre<BR/>Cadmium Yellow Light<BR/>French Vermilion<BR/>Perm. Alizarin<BR/>Cobalt Blue<BR/>Ultramarine Blue<BR/>Burnt Sienna<BR/>Olive Green<BR/>Viridian<BR/><BR/>And a purple mixture of Cobalt and Alizarin, a mixture apparently used by the old masters, however they may have used Rose Madder in place of Alizarin. If absolutely needed, I'll put out Raw Umber, Burnt Umber, or Naples Yellow. I find with the palette above I rarely need these 3 colors.<BR/><BR/>I came up with this palette and its arrangement, after studying all the palettes I collected. I have Ivory black and Raw sienna next to each other, because I mix these to colors to draw with. For plein air I stick to the palette you suggested, which is John Stobart's palette of 6 colors. In this order, Flake White, Ultramarine Blue, Burnt Sienna, Cad. Lemon, Winsor Red, Perm. Green..<BR/><BR/>Thanks for this Great post, <BR/><BR/>Jason<BR/>p.s. Notes on Sargent from John Collier's book. <BR/><BR/>He disapproved (Miss Heyneman continues) of my palette and brushes. On the palette the paints had not been put out with any system.<BR/>Sargent: "You do not want dabs of color, you want plenty of paint to<BR/>paint with."Jason Peckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08851518051471565619noreply@blogger.com