tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post8779923037146763621..comments2024-03-28T16:36:12.581-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: Translucent sketch paperJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-84283202646074823182009-02-22T07:30:00.000-05:002009-02-22T07:30:00.000-05:00I use CANSON polyester drafting film. I think it's...I use CANSON polyester drafting film. I think it's ol' school animation material.<BR/><BR/>It's very transparent and easily takes pencil.<BR/>I use it mainly to 'carbon copy' a bit of drawing on top of another.<BR/>Real carbon copy sheets are not transparent and the 'ink' is very difficult to erase, hence my alternative.<BR/>After I have drawn (or printed!) the outlines on a sheet, I cover the back with graphite and I can 'carbon copy'.<BR/><BR/>The sheets are expensive but...they are washable!<BR/><BR/>Some comic book artists actually use tracing paper to ink drawings that where assembled like this topic's example.Erik Bongershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02409523352634066030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-29210730621587207732009-02-21T13:37:00.000-05:002009-02-21T13:37:00.000-05:00I do a lot of compositional sketches this way, but...I do a lot of compositional sketches this way, but I can't stand the flimsy nature of trace paper. Like Michael, I use translucent vellum and it's a whole lot more enjoyable. It's easier to erase on and rework without tearing.<BR/>Thanks for the post James!Rob Reyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06483562748025767224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-79068267051901924702009-02-21T13:33:00.000-05:002009-02-21T13:33:00.000-05:00Well, I don't know about JUST as fast...but it cer...Well, I don't know about JUST as fast...<BR/>but it certainly was the ONLY way to do things just 15 years ago.<BR/>It's the enlarging/reducing process that always made this method so time consuming.<BR/>It meant redrawing everything, or a million trips to Kinkos for Xerox enlargements in 5% increments!<BR/><BR/>I remember comps like this taking me days,<BR/>but then again, I'm no Gurney.Dan dos Santoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070424854827757881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-42696409949010496272009-02-21T13:28:00.000-05:002009-02-21T13:28:00.000-05:00Strathmore offers pads of a vellum that takes penc...Strathmore offers pads of a vellum that takes pencil, charcoal and erasing very well. <BR/><BR/>Daroo, I completely agree about the missing elements working digitally. I've discussed it with avid digital artists and I no longer think this is a universal complaint as I originally suspected. Perhaps some of us have a full sensory experience when working. Everything is part of the process. Those tactile qualities present a sculptural element to drawing and painting.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05600856944731745751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-65149794257625882009-02-21T10:51:00.000-05:002009-02-21T10:51:00.000-05:00Daroo, I don't know the brand of cotton detail pap...Daroo, I don't know the brand of cotton detail paper (aka Drafting Vellum) that I use, because I lost the wrapper. But I know you can get the similar stuff, and also the cheaper sketch paper from draphixdirect.com, a good supplier for architect supplies. Their brand of bumwad is called "Sun-Glo." The good vellum costs about $40 for a 24 inch by 50 yard roll. The bumwad goes for about 10 bucks for a 24" x 50 yd roll.<BR/><BR/>I never ran into the problem Rockwell talks about with the sizing.<BR/><BR/>As you suggest, you can also use the thin tissue over the top of a half-finished painting for trying out changes.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-91762564236129761872009-02-21T10:35:00.000-05:002009-02-21T10:35:00.000-05:00I dunno if I would've included bumwad and deliciou...I dunno if I would've included bumwad and deliciously tactile in the same post -- but its great info none the less.<BR/><BR/>Seriously, the lack of tactile feedback is one of the drawbacks with working digitally. When I'm primarily working on the cintiq -- I miss not only the feel of pencil on paper but also the sound it makes. This audio-tactile feedback was part of the process of drawing in different styles (a skritchy line drawing sounded different than one with flowing line work.)<BR/><BR/>You mentioned in an earlier post the benefits of switching between media and I think this applies especially to working with digital and analog methods.<BR/><BR/>When I want to do a quick (oil) color sketch I grab some tracing vellum and place it over my drawing -- then I can quickly try out some color ideas or rendering approaches. It may not be permanent but its a fun surface to paint on.<BR/><BR/>What brand of architects' detail paper do you use. Do you have to remove the sizing with an eraser before applying charcoal (Rockwell complained of this)?Daroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02269629297022511462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-30440540799644678872009-02-21T09:30:00.000-05:002009-02-21T09:30:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Stapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-37276021233642355722009-02-21T09:24:00.000-05:002009-02-21T09:24:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Stapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-9284689306077733442009-02-21T09:18:00.000-05:002009-02-21T09:18:00.000-05:00Drew, no, the sketch paper is actually less durabl...Drew, no, the sketch paper is actually less durable than tracing paper on a pad. It's fairly thin and fragile, just a step in the process. When you're ready to develop a charcoal comprehensive (aka "cartoon") then you can switch to a 100% cotton architect's detail paper, which can really take a beating. This is what Rockwell used for his charcoal preliminaries.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-69464168842122006402009-02-21T08:49:00.000-05:002009-02-21T08:49:00.000-05:00Never thought about that. I usually worry about r...Never thought about that. I usually worry about refining and pre-planning too much, since I think somewhere along the line the drawing gets its energy killed. This might be worth trying though.<BR/><BR/>Is it a more durable type of paper than the sort of tracing paper you see strathmore put out in pads? That would definitely get me to try it out.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18262476114387821096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-21475799906628407162009-02-21T07:57:00.000-05:002009-02-21T07:57:00.000-05:00Often I'll pick up a magazine like ImagineFX, and ...Often I'll pick up a magazine like <I>ImagineFX</I>, and it amazes me how transferable the layering techniques in Photoshop can be to painting in oils. <BR/><BR/>So I purchase that publication looking for tips instead of one with more traditional techniques. Each issue has so much content. <BR/><BR/>Tracing paper serves a similar effect - thanks, James! Another great technique.Glendon Mellowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03582347493421110738noreply@blogger.com