tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post4607892307299195414..comments2024-03-18T07:23:32.809-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: Paris Salon StatisticsJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-16450994770597567912014-05-10T07:32:31.204-04:002014-05-10T07:32:31.204-04:00Hi! I actually added your blog to my favorites lis... Hi! I actually added your blog to my favorites list and look forward to get the same quality content every time I visit your blog. Thanks a lot.<a href="http://www.zootout.com/indore/salons" rel="nofollow"> Salons in inodre</a><br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08135287485030599291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-80805599465402419782014-05-10T07:31:23.135-04:002014-05-10T07:31:23.135-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08135287485030599291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-2911549523832484902009-03-14T18:38:00.000-04:002009-03-14T18:38:00.000-04:00Stephen, there was a stigma for some artists when ...Stephen, there was a stigma for some artists when the first Salon de Refuses was arranged--quite a few artists refused to be part of it. But it became a source of perverse pride for many others as time went by. <BR/><BR/>I recommend Ross King's recent book "Judgment of Paris," which tells the story of what happened in France in 1863-1873 in great detail, focusing on Manet and Meissonier.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-57634368523229786682009-03-14T18:02:00.000-04:002009-03-14T18:02:00.000-04:00Fascinating. I can only imagine having that much g...Fascinating. <BR/><BR/>I can only imagine having that much great art in one place at a time. <BR/><BR/>Do you have any good information on the stigma attatched to artist who were exhibited in the "Salon de refuses."<BR/><BR/>By the way Jess I agree 110%.Stephen James.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04729750229032513596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-86770513870409169032009-03-12T15:47:00.000-04:002009-03-12T15:47:00.000-04:00Thanks, Katherine for that info about the Royal Ac...Thanks, Katherine for that info about the Royal Academy. For those that aren't already aware of her art blog "<A HREF="http://makingamark.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Making a Mark</A> ," check it out. It's loaded with great information.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-13899774272836169592009-03-12T15:29:00.000-04:002009-03-12T15:29:00.000-04:00Thanks james for a great post. It now makes much ...Thanks james for a great post. It now makes much more sense to me why NOT getting into the Paris Salon was such a big deal for a painter.<BR/><BR/>Incidentally, the Royal Academy Summer Exhibition shows have large numbers of works. I've just pulled out my catalogues for 2006 and 2008 and the numbers shown were as follows<BR/>- 2006: 1,326 works<BR/>- 2008: 1,129 works<BR/>The number varies from year to year depending on who's doing the selection and how much white space they want. For example, this year the sculptors wouldn't allow any paintings on the wall of their room (and you could actually 'see' the sculture for a change!) <BR/><BR/>Those numbers are of course less than the works accepted since there are always some which are not hung.<BR/><BR/>Incidentally, the Small Weston Room which always takes the smaller works (and their definition of small and my definition of small are not quite in synch!) is always hung as per the Paris Salon. It really makes you realise how much depends on getting in that middle zone round about eye level - as opposed to waist level or way up high.Making A Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13509483023337008890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-11011560804399766312009-03-12T15:10:00.000-04:002009-03-12T15:10:00.000-04:00From what I understand, going to these events was ...From what I understand, going to these events was really part of the French social life. They waited for it, they talked about it, the went and hung out - gossiped about artists and art...can you imagine? a whole society revolving around art!Julia Lundmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12738254016772333899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-64444487636200161092009-03-12T12:02:00.000-04:002009-03-12T12:02:00.000-04:00Just goes to show you how the value of Art in soci...Just goes to show you how the value of Art in society has greatly depreciated. I suppose it was a great source of entertainment in those days. Now a days we "multitask" our entertainment right from our living room chairs.PAUL KEYSARhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17662084863602101192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-69509875797516320532009-03-12T10:11:00.000-04:002009-03-12T10:11:00.000-04:00...and we complain about the lines at the Louve to......and we complain about the lines at the Louve today. Wow.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05400061467355574566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-7050995592709037712009-03-12T09:55:00.000-04:002009-03-12T09:55:00.000-04:00I wonder if museums would get better better attend...I wonder if museums would get better better attendance if they lowered the price of entry. <BR/>I would love to see art be more accessible to everyone. <BR/>I suppose the nature of contemporary art is to be beyond the common man.Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02313737532863013363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-17319622695633067692009-03-12T09:49:00.000-04:002009-03-12T09:49:00.000-04:00Fascinating statistics!The one thing that always s...Fascinating statistics!<BR/><BR/>The one thing that always strikes me the most when I see such illustrations of the Salon is how the paintings were hung, stacked to the ceiling like that. What an insult it was to have your painting "skied" (which I believe was the term). How could anyone possibly view those to any satisfaction? They couldn't, I imagine...TomHarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18120654347448953846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-77360262327459976652009-03-12T09:30:00.000-04:002009-03-12T09:30:00.000-04:00Great post -- brings new meaning to the term "canv...Great post -- brings new meaning to the term "canvas mileage".Daroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02269629297022511462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-18488446488643893342009-03-12T08:51:00.000-04:002009-03-12T08:51:00.000-04:00Erik--yes, those times are gone. And you raise an ...Erik--yes, those times are gone. And you raise an interesting point. Perhaps the vast sea of painting created an environment that encouraged the making of scandalous works to get attention. <BR/><BR/>That said, up until 1863, the buzz at the Salon was about unoffensive miniature paintings of cavaliers by the so-called "painter of Lilliput," Meissonier.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-60746608450522840932009-03-12T08:23:00.000-04:002009-03-12T08:23:00.000-04:00Don't we all secretly dream that we would have bee...Don't we all secretly dream that we would have been the painter of that one scandalous painting that was once on everybody's lips for weeks, thereby getting ourselves a place in the history of the arts.<BR/><BR/>But those days are gone, my friends.Erik Bongershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02409523352634066030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-8266568027820845042009-03-12T08:19:00.000-04:002009-03-12T08:19:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Erik Bongershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02409523352634066030noreply@blogger.com