tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post5352491270432849366..comments2024-03-28T09:25:25.716-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: StylelessnessJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-90285715186603693092011-01-02T13:45:39.587-05:002011-01-02T13:45:39.587-05:00@ Steve: Thank you for mentioning Francis Lee Jaqu...@ Steve: Thank you for mentioning Francis Lee Jaques.<br />He is my husband's great-uncle, and many of his works are still in the family. Besides being in the National History Museum in NYC, he did a lot of diorama work in museums in Minnesota, where he and his wife lived for many years. Though he died twenty years before I joined the family, I have enjoyed many stories of him over the years. They called him 'Lee.'Peggasushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16430376275956260855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-79820852054641693602010-12-31T04:52:01.320-05:002010-12-31T04:52:01.320-05:00Neat! I love it when museums obviously take the ti...Neat! I love it when museums obviously take the time to get quality art in. <br /><br />Most recently, I think I was struck by the mural for the Lucy's Legacy exhibit when I saw it in Seattle. Apparently it was done by artist, Viktor Deak, and you can see panels from the mural here:<br /><br />http://www.anatomicalorigins.com/www.anatomicalorigins.com/2-D_Digital.html<br /><br />You can see his workspace here: <br />http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/06/02/science/20090602-prof-pano.htmlPixelFishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14663536968452455022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-21444242639810734222010-12-31T01:13:04.854-05:002010-12-31T01:13:04.854-05:00"Windows on Nature" was written by a col..."Windows on Nature" was written by a colleague of mine, Stephen Quinn, who has spent his career at AMNH.<br /><br />In November, as a recipient of a Artists for Conservation Flag Expedition grant (I was awarded one last year; it's a great program!), he traveled to Rwanda to search out the exact spot which inspired Carl Akeley's gorilla diorama at the AMNH. <br /><br />If you are interested you can find out more, and read the expedition blogs, here: http://artistsforconservation.org/programs/flag-expeditions/expedition/11/how-artist-saved-mountain-gorillasfoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14641207520270872175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-62798620359477926332010-12-30T07:21:50.595-05:002010-12-30T07:21:50.595-05:00I always loved going to the museum of natural hist...I always loved going to the museum of natural history in San Francisco as a kid and looking at the diorama backgrounds. As much as they were style-less you could still tell the different artists from one another if you looked. I guess not having a style doesn't stop you from being unique.armandcabrerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772142818316748471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-70120364125282543852010-12-29T20:50:20.388-05:002010-12-29T20:50:20.388-05:00My Pen: I wonder if you mean Carl Rungius. He was ...My Pen: I wonder if you mean Carl Rungius. He was a great wildlife painter, with very vigorous impressionist handling. But his moose backdrop doesn't really work as an illusionistic painting.<br /><br />Max, I think the same thing would happen if Monet or Cezanne tried backdrops. Their paint strokes and their style would stick to the wall and kill the effect.<br /><br />All of which raises a whole set of aesthetic questions: why do we bring different expectations to a framed painting in a gallery or a museum compared to the expectations we bring to a backdrop illusion? Should the painterly surface make an appeal to the eye apart from the paint's role in illusion-making? <br /><br />I think this question has been answered differently by artists at different times in history. In Asher Durand's day, the scale was definitely tilted more in favor of illusionistic painting.James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-7946570979249197602010-12-29T20:07:37.383-05:002010-12-29T20:07:37.383-05:00@ max,
Funny you should say that because the pain...@ max, <br />Funny you should say that because the painter of the background for the moose diarama at the AMNH (his name escapes me) did just that, and i don't think it is nearly as effective as the other paintings.<br /><br />there is some debate whether he ever finished it.My Pen Namehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10163003696435139513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-49042477213459978002010-12-29T19:14:49.090-05:002010-12-29T19:14:49.090-05:00Your views on not having a style make me wonder if...Your views on not having a style make me wonder if Impressionist landscape painters like Paul Cezanne or Claude Monet would have made it as backdrop painters themselves.Max Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05403575167825914594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-62643294766455083752010-12-29T18:44:34.686-05:002010-12-29T18:44:34.686-05:00When I lived in NYC and got to venture to the AMNH...When I lived in NYC and got to venture to the AMNH, I swear I spent far more time staring at the backgrounds than the actual taxidermy. There's some fantastic blending of the seams too - where the ground planes and physical landscaping meet the wall. They are quite a treasure to experience in themselves.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07065452656053026001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-84592195247397396912010-12-29T17:09:02.068-05:002010-12-29T17:09:02.068-05:00EXCELLENT! Thanks!EXCELLENT! Thanks!Joe Juskohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00372481990907532158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-36113312111484439502010-12-29T17:04:48.437-05:002010-12-29T17:04:48.437-05:00anyone interested in the AMNH windows, I highly hi...anyone interested in the AMNH windows, I highly highly HIGHLY recommend "windows of nature" <br />http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/dioramas/book.php<br /><br />I have NEVER known anyone who looked at this book and was not amazed. It's a fascinating story about how the windows were made.My Pen Namehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10163003696435139513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-86696031294894787962010-12-29T16:42:55.380-05:002010-12-29T16:42:55.380-05:00Great to see this post! The diorama painting at th...Great to see this post! The diorama painting at the AMNH have fascinated me since childhood. Nice to be able to put some names to the work.Joe Juskohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00372481990907532158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-72835163028653271992010-12-29T16:01:04.528-05:002010-12-29T16:01:04.528-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kelly Forbes (Field Marshal)https://www.blogger.com/profile/05784061368460658787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-53143396677066401902010-12-29T16:00:41.370-05:002010-12-29T16:00:41.370-05:00James,
did you approach your backgrounds in this m...James,<br />did you approach your backgrounds in this manner for Fire and Ice or did you have a certain level of creative freedom? Obviously the environments didn't exist, but were you given strict protocol?<br /><br />I just watched that again the other day and some of those paintings were astonishing, especially given the tight deadlines you and the team must have been on.<br /><br />-KellyKelly Forbes (Field Marshal)https://www.blogger.com/profile/05784061368460658787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-81465622701226549452010-12-29T13:48:31.460-05:002010-12-29T13:48:31.460-05:00"Sliding in and out of the awareness that wha..."Sliding in and out of the awareness that what I was looking at was "simply" paint." That describes the experience perfectly, Steve. It also reminds me of the experience of watching the first 3-D big-screen Imax nature films. You forget you're looking at a screen.<br /><br />Dan, yes, I'm glad you mentioned matte painters in film, whose work has to blend with the particular look of the lens and film stock, the other matte painters, and the directors vision--all so that you don't stop and say, "Hey, a matte painting!"<br /><br />Another good book on their work is "The Invisible Art."James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-5924082161226010762010-12-29T13:41:37.464-05:002010-12-29T13:41:37.464-05:00Correcting a spelling error in my earlier comment;...Correcting a spelling error in my earlier comment; it's Jaques, not Jacques.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596875722436085739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-82754292160885647642010-12-29T13:25:15.030-05:002010-12-29T13:25:15.030-05:00This work reminds me quite a bit of what matte pai...This work reminds me quite a bit of what matte painters do for the film industry. I read somewhere that if you see a matte painting on film, typically it can only be shown for a few mere seconds before the eye becomes aware of the illusion. There are a few great examples in the book: "From Star Wars to Indiana Jones: The Best of the Lucasfilm Archives"<br /><br />Do you ever paint on glass?brueggerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02883028169275423067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-72881938501579544422010-12-29T12:47:56.620-05:002010-12-29T12:47:56.620-05:00Thanks for the heads-up on the latest chapter in J...Thanks for the heads-up on the latest chapter in JPW's life. In my childhood (early and mid 1950's) I had the privilege of making several pilgrimages to the AMNH. Though I wouldn't learn their names until years later, I was mesmerized by the work of Wilson and another painter, Francis Lee Jacques. I had no concept of "stylelessness," but I certainly responded to the power of these painted backdrops to create depth, space, and light. I do remember a feeling of sliding in and out of the awareness that what I was looking at was "simply" paint.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09596875722436085739noreply@blogger.com