tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post67718985462903898..comments2024-03-28T09:25:25.716-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: Results of the Watercolor Pigment PollJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-44939178352721585622014-08-19T09:24:13.980-04:002014-08-19T09:24:13.980-04:00Thank you for your comment, James! I opened my Wi...Thank you for your comment, James! I opened my Windsor Newton box after the poll results and saw I had a sap green in there and that I had used it! LOL Joke's on me.Marthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13745446577760542900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-53312840008003678652014-08-19T02:56:53.157-04:002014-08-19T02:56:53.157-04:00Dan, thanks for the feedback, and I'm glad you...Dan, thanks for the feedback, and I'm glad you liked it. Great story about the big porcelain try. Just diving in is the way to learn--throwing caution to the wind.<br />I love that little Schmincke set, too. I've juggled some colors in and out, but still use it regularly. It's compact, but feels like a bigger box.<br /><br />Garrett and Jytte, haven't seen that documentary, but I wonder if you're right. I read somewhere that the major environmental polluter with cadmium is the battery industry (nickel cadmium batteries).<br /><br />Sfox, thanks for the tips on cad orange replacements. Scott does wonderful things with color.<br /><br />Martha, I agree, though I'll admit that even though I've been guilty of pooh-poohing phthalo green, I had it with me one time and I absolutely needed it for a certain mixture, so I respect the stuff. And I do love viridian, especially in oil, for a complement in skin tone mixtures.<br /><br />Monbaum, my yoga "plank" attempts are pretty pathetic, but I'm trying.<br />James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-31751048703655953712014-08-19T02:02:33.156-04:002014-08-19T02:02:33.156-04:00Did anyone see the film Gasland by Josh Fox ? As a...Did anyone see the film Gasland by Josh Fox ? As a result of hydraulic fracturing for natural gas the outslip (amongst other dangerous elements) cadmium was mentioned. I wonder who is poluting the best artists or the gas industry ?jyttehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05274555061122451100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-16757485936725757332014-08-19T00:25:25.038-04:002014-08-19T00:25:25.038-04:00Hi James,
Just watched your video through (DVD ar...Hi James,<br /><br />Just watched your video through (DVD arrived today). Great resource. I know I'll be watching it again (and again).<br /><br />My favorite segment was the church yard, second favorite "Rosebud," because I think in both there is more of a complete sense of how the sketch develops, without gaps.<br /><br />Regarding pigments: When I first tried watercolors as a complete neophyte, I bought a bunch of Winsor and Newton artist's tube colors (about 20), squeezed them out into the "cups" around the edge of a huge flat porcelain palette, and allowed them to dry. I had no idea what I was doing, but just dove in. A few of them had interesting properties that I didn't understand very well, but this made for some successful accidents. There were probably too many colors for a beginner, but it was a good way to get introduced to a lot of different pigments. (I still have that palette, and it's great if you have a lot of free tabletop space. Lots of room to mix colors; lots of pigments; not at all portable.)<br /><br />I just recently picked up the 12-pan starter set from Schmincke, and it looks like it has a decent selection of colors to get started. Kind of expensive, but looks like good quality materials, and they ought to last, especially with small sketches. And though it's not tiny, it's definitely portable.<br /><br />Thanks again for all the great info on this blog.<br /><br />DanDanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11104688936444427994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-71308810323204121742014-08-18T20:25:22.972-04:002014-08-18T20:25:22.972-04:00I do find Cad Orange very useful for getting the c...I do find Cad Orange very useful for getting the coat color right in some of the wildlife I paint, so would also be interested in knowing about alternatives. <br /><br />I'll get a tube of pyrrole red and try it. I currently use Rembrandt Permanent Medium Red as a result of taking Scott Christensen's Ten Day Plein Air intensive back when he only used a four color palette (Ult. blue, the Remb. red, Cad. yellow med, titanium white), plus two greys. It has good opacity and plays well with my other colors, which are mostly Winsor Newton. I still go back to that palette sometimes for small quick studies.sfoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14641207520270872175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-10221994257012636762014-08-18T19:07:18.577-04:002014-08-18T19:07:18.577-04:00Thank you for a fun poll and interesting commentar...Thank you for a fun poll and interesting commentary! I wouldn't bother with a premixed green, it is nicer to mix your own. <br />Marthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13745446577760542900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-11036381675819751422014-08-18T18:29:56.527-04:002014-08-18T18:29:56.527-04:00Thanks for all the great info that was put into th...Thanks for all the great info that was put into the video! Also, I'm glad to hear you discuss the cadmium issue, it's something I've been really looking into since I'm putting together a new palette.NovaBiscuithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11660773663625654911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-14540560143331852172014-08-18T16:19:57.180-04:002014-08-18T16:19:57.180-04:00James :-) *grin* that's a comfort to hear... i...James :-) *grin* that's a comfort to hear... in a way. Glad Jeanette is trying to keep you straight. <br />I must tell my other half Rolf to be more strict with me - after all he has a fitness instructor certificate.<br /><br />I must try that yoga thing as well.<br /><br />all the best<br />MonikaMonika Baumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05987299569021308963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-63556239548768740592014-08-18T16:02:02.154-04:002014-08-18T16:02:02.154-04:00Marque, great questions. I'll start off the po...Marque, great questions. I'll start off the post tomorrow with my own answers.<br /><br />Monbaum, my posture ain't so hot. Most of the time I look like a question mark when I'm sitting to sketch. Jeanette's got me joining in to her morning Yoga exercises. James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-6585022765101889672014-08-18T15:22:10.161-04:002014-08-18T15:22:10.161-04:00I just read Marque's question number 2 and tho...I just read Marque's question number 2 and thought about how I always slouch when I sketch with the sketchbook on my lap. Couple that with a sedentary office day job, and you have some serious back pain waiting to happen. At least that is the situation I am in right now. I know I should do regular exercise (I have just started running and skipping again) and I was wondering if you were ever kept from painting by back pain? I imagine unicycling helps strengthening the core and thus supporting the back?Monika Baumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05987299569021308963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-91922601628523797862014-08-18T14:08:15.525-04:002014-08-18T14:08:15.525-04:00Great poll and it would be fun to take the top 3, ...Great poll and it would be fun to take the top 3, 5 or 10 and just go with it!<br /><br />I bought your WC video and have been avidly following all of the posts this week - a couple of things I am still grappling with for my kit and I hope you can answer:<br /><br />1)How do you protect your brushes from damage with all the jostling they get in a to go pack? If they are loose in a container the tips can get damaged and that seems a pity particularly for expensive sable brushes. I am also having a problem finding something big enough for short handle brushes that isn't so long that it is hard to pack - any suggestions?<br /><br />2) If you are holding your sketchbook on your lap (vs using the stiff board behind) how do you manage that with the landscape format? It is pretty floppy and somewhat of a balancing act. The only thing I could think of was to put a binder clip across the gutter/hinge area to help stabilize it.<br /><br />All suggestions welcome!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03312089246557624447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-9639152545004040942014-08-18T08:54:42.753-04:002014-08-18T08:54:42.753-04:00Regarding substitutes for Cad Yellow Light, Nickel...Regarding substitutes for Cad Yellow Light, Nickel Titanate Yellow with some Gamboge mixed in provides an interesting opaqueish alternative although not an exact match. It's not an easy color to find although Da Vinci makes it. One thing to love about Nickel Titanate Yellow is its granulation and the wonderful effects and interesting separation that occurs when it's mixed with another color, especially (for example) Cobalt Turquoise!<br /><br />FINE, I admit it...watercolor pigment addict here.Carole Pivarnikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787775846290065794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-30887273659519177642014-08-18T07:52:31.617-04:002014-08-18T07:52:31.617-04:00Krystal, you're right--of all the cadmiums, ca...Krystal, you're right--of all the cadmiums, cad yellow light is the hardest to replace, especially if you need the opacity. Hansa is usually fairly transparent, which is fine in watercolor. I haven't tried the "opaque" version of Hansa that Golden was talking about on their link, but they mention that some of the organic replacements have other advantages, not the least of which is price.<br /><br />I've almost entirely switched to pyrrole red in oil because I think it mixes better toward violet than cad red. So if I had to pick one bright red to take out with me, I might almost prefer the pyrrole--plus I love that they use it on race cars.<br /><br />Jason, I know you've done lots of polling and experimenting about different palettes. I really like your 8 color shortlist. I'm not sure about cad orange replacements. I don't usually need cad orange, but I might if I was pushing the gamut with painting flowers or neon or something. <br /><br />For people who want to get really deep into pigments, check out Bruce MacEvoy's site HandPrint: http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/watero.html James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-72866656761008181072014-08-18T04:45:13.353-04:002014-08-18T04:45:13.353-04:00I don't totally agree about Hansa yellow as a ...I don't totally agree about Hansa yellow as a replacement of cadmium yellow... In fact, I know both pigments quite well. Ok - not quite well in watercolor. But as far oil painting is concerned, there is a huge difference in opacity. The color is about the same. What makes the cadmiums so unique still isn't the color but their remarkable opacity...Krystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04298689014749323174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-88007601681963951542014-08-18T04:18:11.310-04:002014-08-18T04:18:11.310-04:00Hey James,
Great Poll, I agree with you about th...Hey James,<br /><br /> Great Poll, I agree with you about the Cadmiums, Ive been looking for alternatives myself. I really like the Hansa Yellow Light, and Pyrrole Red, but I cant seem to find a good alternative to Cadmium Orange. <br /><br />In the recent list I sent you I made a mistake and included White Gouache as one of my indispensable colors, I meant to include Yellow Ochre or Raw Sienna, I like both pigments, and I like to have at least one of them. <br /><br />My 8 would be Hansa Yellow Light, Yellow Ochre Pale, Pyrrole Red, Permanent Rose, Burnt Sienna, Ultramarine Blue, Cerulean Blue, and Viridian. <br /><br />Do you know of any nice orange pigments that can replace Cad. Orange?Jason Peckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08851518051471565619noreply@blogger.com