tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post7176235071487720283..comments2024-03-28T16:36:12.581-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: Overcast Light, Part 1James Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-60256588266727565062008-01-11T12:28:00.000-05:002008-01-11T12:28:00.000-05:00James wrote : I believe Meissonier was a huge insp...James wrote : I believe Meissonier was a huge inspiration for Howard Pyle (above). Meissonier was the artist that every history painter was talking about during Pyle’s formative years, but he’s still in eclipse among most American art historians, unfortunately.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, those painters called " firemen" ( pompiers) are absolutely " erased from the french culture and teachings too.....<BR/>Not only in former USSR did they " wipe " off people for ideas......The only painter who quoted them was Master Salvador DALI....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-69577963853152696512008-01-11T08:55:00.000-05:002008-01-11T08:55:00.000-05:00I am very impressed to see that Detaille and Messo...I am very impressed to see that Detaille and Messonier made it into your post, these are among my favourite painters but since they do mainly military subjects and they aren't English or American they rarely get a mention in most articles. Yet they were leading artists with world renown in their time as you said. Some of my other favourites are:<BR/>Lady Butler, Karl Rochling, Fortunio Matania, Richard Caton-Woodville, Howard Pyle, Frederick Remmington and Charles Schrevoegel (apollogies for spelling mistakes in any names).Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06160698278120944624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-76714235457572139282008-01-11T08:48:00.000-05:002008-01-11T08:48:00.000-05:00Detaille and Messonier were both studio painters, ...Detaille and Messonier were both studio painters, usually working on massive canvases. For most of their paintings working outside wouldn't be an option at all, it would take several men just to move the canavas.Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06160698278120944624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-71888678105234976292008-01-11T08:47:00.000-05:002008-01-11T08:47:00.000-05:00I've seen quite a few finished oil studies painted...I've seen quite a few finished oil studies painted outdoors by Meissonier, Detaille, and Dagnan-Bouveret. They clearly had costumed models posing outdoors. They also did charcoal, gouache, and oil studies of models in their north-light studios. The final paintings would have been crafted in the studio from those studies.<BR/><BR/>Dagnan at least may have occasionally worked from photos. Gabriel Weisburg's book on Naturalism shows a couple of examples, but I don't think it was a regular practice for any of these guys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-86765427499922606492008-01-11T07:11:00.000-05:002008-01-11T07:11:00.000-05:00Do you think they finished their paintings outside...Do you think they finished their paintings outside in the environment or in their studios? The figures look so convincing in their respective environments. It's as if the painters had them pose in the actual location. Are you familiar with their working methods?<BR/><BR/>Thanks for this post.Patrick Dizonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05474426989493027469noreply@blogger.com