tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post8116869382600632471..comments2024-03-28T16:36:12.581-04:00Comments on Gurney Journey: Another View of Saint EulaliaJames Gurneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-31541015093729326682020-08-11T04:52:00.005-04:002020-08-11T04:52:00.005-04:00Interesting story, and a very beautiful painting b...Interesting story, and a very beautiful painting by old master Waterhouse. I think any of the two stories could be possible, or none. But an established power being intolerant to the advent of a new faith or ideology looks like a more credible story to me, it tends to happen a lot along history. To my knowledge at least. <br /><br />What catches me especially in this painting is the uncommon composition. How our main subject (the dead woman) occupies the lower third of the painting, but the artist plays with all the elements around her to make her stand out, and she also has the advantage of proximity.<br /><br />Thank you for this interesting postAmin Ouazzani Touhamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13171632417080091405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-24146316664774562092020-08-07T00:54:03.583-04:002020-08-07T00:54:03.583-04:00I think this is why religion is such a force for t...I think this is why religion is such a force for trouble in this world. Both sides claiming some sort of divine influence or power. <br /><br />Pushing people to these sorts of extreme behaviors doesn't help anything. Peace, acceptance and tranquility bring us to a better place where discourse allows for rational living. Susan Krzywickihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11734833252007456199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-70994441576408026412020-08-04T04:40:52.416-04:002020-08-04T04:40:52.416-04:00(Hard not to think of John Everett Millais' Op...(Hard not to think of John Everett Millais' Ophelia... Was she mad or true?)Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16718764867016079885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-7514716382373107592020-08-04T04:30:52.641-04:002020-08-04T04:30:52.641-04:00(Lauren) I find those questions fascinating as wel...(Lauren) I find those questions fascinating as well. Perhaps, like in painting, one hones into what is the most relevant to oneself and not necessarily knowing why. Martyrdom, if by definition one would mean rather dying than loosing oneself, is always relevant. I find even when one is not truthful to oneself, one dies a little. I would also love to hear Mr. Gurney elaborate. :) MariaMariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16718764867016079885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-72092448324230489102020-08-03T22:16:46.210-04:002020-08-03T22:16:46.210-04:00I am about to finish reading Graham Greene's T...I am about to finish reading Graham Greene's The Power and the Glory. Glad to see it mentioned here. A great book to read if you want to hear possible thoughts of one going into martyrdom. What does martyrdom look like to those who are not the martyr? I wonder if she did not wrestle with doubts like all would in that scenario. I guess Waterhouse thought she deserved the doves and white snow. <br /><br />I remember this being the most arresting painting in the gallery when I visited the Tate. The perspective lines and foreshadowing drew me right into the scene. I wish you could analyze the composition for us, Mr. Gurney. Laurenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16914479916147997696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-35420523061492501802020-08-03T21:06:49.125-04:002020-08-03T21:06:49.125-04:00Funny how the government frames it. They aren'...Funny how the government frames it. They aren't executing you for refusing to adhere to their rules, you are committing suicide for refusing to do something so simple which could save your life--proclaim Caesar as god.<br /><br />It really is amazing how many chose death rather than deny their God. This isn't just ancient history, either. May their reward be great.scottThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10033264210231543212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-34797391687796358312020-08-03T11:37:31.202-04:002020-08-03T11:37:31.202-04:00I don’t know the true attitude of Eulalia, but I c...I don’t know the true attitude of Eulalia, but I can say that to be a Christian is not to fear death, but also not to intentionally seek it out. The mandate given is to go forth and proclaim the gospel. Hard to do if you are dead. Having said that, if the punishment for proclaiming the gospel is death the Christian should continue to perform the mandate, not desiring to die but rather remaining faithful to the calling.<br /><br />The apostle Paul knowing that in death there is release and reward still did not seek it out, but rather, realized it was necessary to remain in the body to proclaim the gospel. He said as much in the following verses.<br /><br />Philippians 1:21-26 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. So what shall I choose? I do not know. I am torn between the two. I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better indeed. But it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. Convinced of this, I know that I will remain and will continue with all of you for your progress and joy in the faith, so that through my coming to you again your exultation in Christ Jesus will resound on account of me.DavidBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11006437229864837195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-59545452952354999902020-08-03T06:58:09.736-04:002020-08-03T06:58:09.736-04:00I would guess it a matter of semantics. For exampl...I would guess it a matter of semantics. For example, did Perpetua commit suicide or was she executed?<br />Like the catholic priests in the Mexican revolution (read The Power and the Glory, Graham Green) who were spared if the renounced the church but executed if they did not. :) MariaMariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16718764867016079885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-72889639712601770612020-08-03T04:10:31.748-04:002020-08-03T04:10:31.748-04:00AMD Fineart - It would be equally obvious for the ...AMD Fineart - It would be equally obvious for the Christians to do exactly the same.Eugene Arenhaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12899356091394676298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-20284028607020602052020-08-02T19:30:50.599-04:002020-08-02T19:30:50.599-04:00On a lighter note I have to ask, am I the only one...On a lighter note I have to ask, am I the only one who immediately started looking for dinosaurs when first viewing this entry?Bill Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14574281497234362021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-21715017583603659632020-08-02T17:04:18.628-04:002020-08-02T17:04:18.628-04:00Hi James, I really admire Waterhouse in spite of h...Hi James, I really admire Waterhouse in spite of his sanitized and evocative depiction of St. Eulalia. Was she a fanatic? She was young, impetuous and single minded as we all once were. Her devotion to the Gospels lead to her fanaticism. If she had a more mature interpretation she may have acted differently. "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you" willbrookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02132137805825087455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-42529108022927558382020-08-02T14:15:38.311-04:002020-08-02T14:15:38.311-04:00I’m of the persuasion that she was innocent, it wo...I’m of the persuasion that she was innocent, it would seem obvious for the Roman Empire to write their history in a way that wouldn’t place them in a bad light.AMD Finearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17891117136324038849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-31128474801812379112020-08-02T14:13:33.134-04:002020-08-02T14:13:33.134-04:00I’m of the persuasion that she was innocent. It wo...I’m of the persuasion that she was innocent. It would seem obvious for the Roman Empire to write their history in a way that wouldn’t put them in a bad light.AMD Finearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17891117136324038849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-28067388039155290152020-08-02T13:19:22.321-04:002020-08-02T13:19:22.321-04:001 Corinthians 1:18
For the message about Christ...1 Corinthians 1:18<br />For the message about Christ's death on the cross is nonsense to those who are being lost; but for us who are being saved it is God's power.<br /><br />I know nothing about this Saint, but I'm sure the Romans thought she was crazy.CatBloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01469246332875693184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2999230124118604245.post-38744494715372760852020-08-02T10:05:03.101-04:002020-08-02T10:05:03.101-04:00A Christian accepts that his life is from God to b...A Christian accepts that his life is from God to be lived for Him and for others. If one is seeking death, he is not a Christian. One is martyred because he refuses to pay homage to idols.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15616883601489903984noreply@blogger.com